Re: [nlug] RHEL now has a free tier!

2021-03-03 Thread Kent Perrier
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:13 AM Csaba Toth wrote: > Good to know! But what does RHEL offer being a paid distro over CentOS? Is > it just the support and contract stuff, or is there some extra software > involved? > There is no SLA for security fixes to make it into CentOS. Generally they hit pre

Re: [nlug] RHEL now has a free tier!

2021-03-03 Thread Tilghman Lesher
In terms of the paid version, yes, the main thing is the support contract. Something I learned some time ago is that, in the business world, having a fix is less important to executives than to have someone to blame for when problems arise. Red Hat takes the blame if anything breaks. That's help

Re: [nlug] RHEL now has a free tier!

2021-03-03 Thread Blake McBride
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 8:41 AM Kent Perrier wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 7:37 AM Tilghman Lesher > wrote: > >> One of the benefits of using Red Hat is that they guarantee that the >> ABI will be stable for a number of years (about 10). If you're a >> small business, and you can't afford a lo

Re: [nlug] RHEL now has a free tier!

2021-03-03 Thread Brian H. Ward
The free-tier is limited. RedHat is not completely free, but free for small use cases (I think 16 instances per account). In the past, CentOS was the free/unsupported variant of RHEL, while Fedora was the test bed for new and exciting stuff the _might_ make it into the RHEL distro at some point. T

Re: [nlug] RHEL now has a free tier!

2021-03-03 Thread Csaba Toth
Good to know! But what does RHEL offer being a paid distro over CentOS? Is it just the support and contract stuff, or is there some extra software involved? On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 8:11 AM Tilghman Lesher wrote: > Fedora hasn't been the free version of Red Hat in quite some time. > Instead, Fedor

Re: [nlug] RHEL now has a free tier!

2021-03-03 Thread Tilghman Lesher
Fedora hasn't been the free version of Red Hat in quite some time. Instead, Fedora is akin to the bleeding edge development version, and CentOS was the free version (with unlimited installs) of Red Hat. Going forward, Fedora continues to be bleeding edge, CentOS is the preview version for the next

Re: [nlug] RHEL now has a free tier!

2021-03-03 Thread Csaba Toth
I work everyday in Debian derived distros, but in my mind Fedora was the free "version" of RedHat. Now that the "enterprise" RedHat is free the big question is what can RedHat give you that Fedora or CentOS cannot? What can be valuable for IT and DevOps is some kind of management tools for managing

Re: [nlug] RHEL now has a free tier!

2021-03-03 Thread Gibson Prichard
Sometimes, vendors provide packages or ISOs to install on Red Hat and while there might be a way to coax them to install on Debian or Ubuntu, the vendor will only support the software if it is installed on RedHat or CentOS. Such is the case with Avid iNews, the widely-used newsroom software that dr

Re: [nlug] RHEL now has a free tier!

2021-03-03 Thread Kent Perrier
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 7:37 AM Tilghman Lesher wrote: > One of the benefits of using Red Hat is that they guarantee that the > ABI will be stable for a number of years (about 10). If you're a > small business, and you can't afford a lot of time to be fixing > software, especially when breakage c

Re: [nlug] RHEL now has a free tier!

2021-03-03 Thread Tilghman Lesher
One of the benefits of using Red Hat is that they guarantee that the ABI will be stable for a number of years (about 10). If you're a small business, and you can't afford a lot of time to be fixing software, especially when breakage comes in security updates (and we really, really want people to a

Re: [nlug] Email Alternatives

2021-03-03 Thread Blake McBride
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Re: [nlug] RHEL now has a free tier!

2021-03-03 Thread Blake McBride
I've been using Linux nearly exclusively for over 15 years. I use LinuxMint on the desktop and Ubuntu on the server-side and have always been quite pleased. I tried CentOS and Red Hat in the past and found them to be out-of-date and no easier or more reliable than my choices. So my question is u