Re: [nlug] ubuntu to move to systemd

2014-02-17 Thread Jon Moore
Both the service command and chkconfig commend work with systemd. At least on Fedora. I would assume that this would be true for other distributions as well. More about that in the Fedora wiki https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd#Does_service_command_work_with_systemd On Sat, Feb 15,

Re: [nlug] ubuntu to move to systemd

2014-02-17 Thread Csaba Toth
When I talked about boot time, I was thinking about laptops running Linux. You are right that in case of a server it's not that big of a deal. I don't use sleep mode or Hibernate with my laptop, because it doesn't work well. I shutdown and boot every time. On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Steven

Re: [nlug] ubuntu to move to systemd

2014-02-15 Thread andrew mcelroy
Maybe I'm about to say something really stupid, but one of my favorite features of upstart is the service command. So from any directory ( with proper permissions aka sudo): service daemon_here command_here.. i thus: service apache restart service postgresql restart. It seems like a small

Re: [nlug] ubuntu to move to systemd

2014-02-15 Thread Curt Lundgren
Now I'm confused. The 'service' script has been around for years as part of Sys V. Commands like 'service named reload', 'service httpd stop', etc. On the first upstart system I used there are new commands, so 'restart apache2' or 'reload named' are used and 'service' has gone by the wayside.

Re: [nlug] ubuntu to move to systemd

2014-02-15 Thread Csaba Toth
Isn't there something equal to this in systemd? I have to Google On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 11:13 AM, andrew mcelroy sophri...@gmail.comwrote: Maybe I'm about to say something really stupid, but one of my favorite features of upstart is the service command. So from any directory ( with proper

[nlug] ubuntu to move to systemd

2014-02-14 Thread andrew mcelroy
Greetings all, Have you heard the word? no not bird (family guy reference) http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316 Ubuntu is moving to systemd. Apparently Debian Ubuntu at the end of the day. My question is this, who will continue to use upstart? Personally, I thought it was a decent

Re: [nlug] ubuntu to move to systemd

2014-02-14 Thread Csaba Toth
I lost traction in the init field a long time ago, so I liked that upstart could run the traditional systemv init scripts too, which I'm familiar with. However, during Christmas I was witness of upgrading more Hardened Gentoo machines to systemd (form OpenRC). In terms of speed, it made a huge

Re: [nlug] ubuntu to move to systemd

2014-02-14 Thread JMJ
On 02/14/2014 05:27 PM, andrew mcelroy wrote: Have you heard the word? no not bird (family guy reference) [groan] Gah... young punks don't know the REAL reference. LOL Let me help: The Trashmen, Surfin' Bird http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZThquH5t0ow

Re: [nlug] ubuntu to move to systemd

2014-02-14 Thread andrew mcelroy
Sent from my iPhone On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:10 PM, JMJ roadr...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/14/2014 05:27 PM, andrew mcelroy wrote: Have you heard the word? no not bird (family guy reference) [groan] Gah... young punks don't know the REAL reference. LOL Let me help: The Trashmen,

Re: [nlug] ubuntu to move to systemd

2014-02-14 Thread andrew mcelroy
On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:46 PM, andrew mcelroy sophri...@gmail.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:10 PM, JMJ roadr...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/14/2014 05:27 PM, andrew mcelroy wrote: Have you heard the word? no not bird (family guy reference) [groan] Gah...

Re: [nlug] ubuntu to move to systemd

2014-02-14 Thread Csaba Toth
Hmmm, I just see, that upstart was based on D-Bus too (good to know the system I'm using :D)! So maybe the switch will not be as hard as an OpenRC-systemd. On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Csaba Toth csaba.toth...@gmail.com wrote: I lost traction in the init field a long time ago, so I liked