Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread John Reinhagen
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, also sprach Ken Hornstein: >>> I don't think they're rich enough to >>> emulate everything that annotations give you. >> >>Because you can't add multiple ones per message, or because they're of a >>fixed length, or...? > >The IMAP specification treats them as a

Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread Ken Hornstein
>Maybe he's talking about the ability of the UW imapd to access the MH >folders you have on the server? I've used it before (in 'pine' to >access a folder "{SYSTEM_NAME}#mh/lists/foo", for instance) to do just >that. These days, I would just ssh in to the box and use nmh >directly. Was that a f

Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread Scott Blachowicz
> > (2) When away from your main system, you might want to be able to > > use IMAP to access your nmh folders from a remote site. > > _This_ would require a special IMAP server; I'm not sure one like > this exists, and would be a lot of work. The IMAP model, for good > or bad, is you alwa

Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread Ken Hornstein
>> I don't think they're rich enough to >> emulate everything that annotations give you. > >Because you can't add multiple ones per message, or because they're of a >fixed length, or...? The IMAP specification treats them as a fairly scarce resource. I haven't done a survey, but IMAP servers ar

Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread Dan Harkless
Ken Hornstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Well, anno might be implementable via the IMAP "tags" facility, no? > > Are you thinking about "flags"? Yeah, sorry -- I'm just picking up the terminology from this discussion. > I don't think they're rich enough to > emulate everything that annot

Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread Ken Hornstein
>If we really wanted to use IMAP, we wouldn't be using 'nmh'. You're not always given a choice, you know. What if company-wide message boards are only available via your IMAP server? >I can see two possible roles for IMAP for the dedicated 'nmh' user: > > (2) When away from your main system,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread Ken Hornstein
>Well, anno might be implementable via the IMAP "tags" facility, no? Are you thinking about "flags"? I don't think they're rich enough to emulate everything that annotations give you. I'm not sure there's any other tagging facility in IMAP. --Ken

Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread Dan Harkless
Ralph Corderoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, the real crux of the problem is that there are some things > > > that you simply cannot _do_ within the context of IMAP. The big > > > one that comes to mind is annotations (there really isn't a way to > > > modify messages on the server, fr

Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread Neil W Rickert
Are we making this too complex? If we really wanted to use IMAP, we wouldn't be using 'nmh'. I can see two possible roles for IMAP for the dedicated 'nmh' user: (1) As a pipe, to download messages into your nmh folders. You would really be using it much as you use POP3. You might

Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi, > > Well, the real crux of the problem is that there are some things > > that you simply cannot _do_ within the context of IMAP. The big > > one that comes to mind is annotations (there really isn't a way to > > modify messages on the server, from my reading of the > > specification). > >

Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread Ken Hornstein
>See the APPEND IMAP4rev1 command: > >append: http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/rfc/rfc1730.html#sec-6.3.10. Yeah, I had look at this, but it really doesn't work - you can't _replace_ an old message, you can only add a new one to a folder. You can set a system-defined flag called \Answer that signif

Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread Shantonu Sen
> If there's no way to replace a message on the server with a local version, > then if nmh does local caching of IMAP messages, modification of those > messages will definitely be an issue. See the APPEND IMAP4rev1 command: append: http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/rfc/rfc1730.html#sec-6.3.10. It a

Re: [Fwd: Re: Questions about IMAP and sequences]

2000-09-12 Thread Dan Harkless
Ken Hornstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >IMO, it's rare because people these days don't think of being able to > >do it; they're used to GUI mail front-ends that don't allow (?) this > >kind of thing. > > Use an IMAP client recently? Well, he made it clear that he hadn't. Lots of us nmh