Dear NMusers,

I have a question also related to omega blocks. Would it be okay to have two such blocks?

In my model for instance correlation between eta 1, 2, and 3 seem biologically plausible, as is a correlation between eta 4 and 5. Correlations between 1, 2, or 3 and eta 4 or 5 is highly unlikely. Could this be coded as follows (I used arbitrary initial estimates for the omegas):

$OMEGA BLOCK(3)
0.1 ;eta 1
0.1 0.1 ;eta2
0.1 0.1 0.1 ;eta3
$OMEGA BLOCK(2)
0.1 ;eta4
0.1 0.1 ;eta5

Thank you for your input,

Elke Krekels




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Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:09 PM
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Subject: [NMusers] OMEGA BLOCK with mixture model?




Dear all,

I am trying to fit a PK model to oral data. In the data, we observed two
things: First, CL seems to be negatively correlated with F1. Secondly, there
seem to be two subpopulations in the exposure, let's say a large group with
'normal' and a second group with high exposure. I would like to identify the
subpopulations using a mixture model, but keep the correlation between CL
and F1. Now I ran into problems when coding the $OMEGA BLOCK.

I figured the block to be something like:
$OMEGA BLOCK(3)
0.1  ;CL1
0 FIX 0.1 ;CL2
0.01 0.01 0.1 ;F1

The error message that appears is:
a covariance is zero, but the block is not a band matrix

I assume that this means that I am not allowed to fix the correlation
between the two clearance-omegas to zero. However, it would be unreasonable
to allow a correlation, because the omegas belong to different
subpopulations, so there can't be a correlation. On the other hand, I did
not include subpopulations for F1, so how can I keep this correlation to
both CL-subgroups?

Any thoughts on this would be highly appreciated!
Best wishes
Nele
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