[nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-26 Thread MikeB_2012
I'm coming from a decade plus of strictly programming in Matlab. I spent a bit of time looking for a 'real', less expensive programming language. Javascript isn't perfect but it is fast, readable, and gives you access to the modern world of programming (client-sever vice standalone machine, b

[nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread Abramovick
if your going make a website u obviously would need to require("http") or https if thats wat u plan to implement. My point is, that u need to learn the HTTP 1.1 API to understand how to build http web servers and how ur going to fully take advantage of the http features provided in node. It sho

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-26 Thread ANIKET KADAM
thanks all the people On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:42 PM, MikeB_2012 wrote: > I'm coming from a decade plus of strictly programming in Matlab. I spent > a bit of time looking for a 'real', less expensive programming language. > Javascript isn't perfect but it is fast, readable, and gives you acces

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-26 Thread ANIKET KADAM
please people comment on this post so i can get more idea. On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:45 PM, ANIKET KADAM wrote: > thanks all the people > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:42 PM, MikeB_2012 wrote: > >> I'm coming from a decade plus of strictly programming in Matlab. I spent >> a bit of time looking f

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-26 Thread Mark Hahn
You must be prepared for some hard work. The concepts needed to effectively use javascript for node can be complex, especially asynchronous callbacks and closures. I personally feel ROR is also hard and you end up with a lot less useful knowledge. ROR is limited to its MVC concept (which is outd

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-26 Thread Stewart Mckinney
I wouldn't say you end up with "less useful" knowledge in Rails. There are a lot of good patterns in the internals, which you will end up reading at some point. The knowledge about Rails' conventions is somewhat situational but even then you can apply similar concepts to Node applications , such as

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-26 Thread ANIKET KADAM
nice folks good, very good but => Stewart Mckinney can you explain below two sentences in more deep Please Stick to Node.js for now, but I suggest learning Ruby at some point. It's > not going anywhere - it's certainly not the "Next Java". (cringe) I think > you will end up seeing them used more

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-26 Thread ANIKET KADAM
can you recommned any learning roadmap for node.js ( with express.js ) to a newbie like me On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Mark Hahn wrote: > You must be prepared for some hard work. The concepts needed to > effectively use javascript for node can be complex, especially asynchronous > callbac

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-26 Thread MikeB_2012
Suggestion - identify a personal project you would like to do then hit http://www.codecademy.com and "Modern Javascript"(book) for learning the basics of javascript. About mid-way through the lessons you will know enough to start looking at the code people have written for modules and projects

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-28 Thread P. Douglas Reeder
1) Pick a project of moderate size - it's hard to master a language or environment from toy problems only. Likewise, pick something small enough to finish. 2) Read Crockford's _JavaScript: The Good Parts_ - once through now, for some orientation, again when you have more experience.  You don't

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-28 Thread ANIKET KADAM
*From all above advice and google searching i have decided to start with node.js, if i ran into any problem Pleadse help me i m now starting with http://eloquentjavascript.net/ thank you * On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:04 PM, P. Douglas Reeder wrote: > 1) Pick a project of moderate size - it's hard

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread Abramovick
if your going make a website u obviously would need to require("http") or https if thats wat u plan to implement. My point is, that u need to learn the HTTP 1.1 API to understand how to build http web servers and how ur going to fully take advantage of the http features provided in node. It sho

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread ANIKET KADAM
please please provide me a link about HTTP 1.1 API On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Abramovick wrote: > if your going make a website u obviously would need to require("http") or > https if thats wat u plan to implement. My point is, that u need to learn > the HTTP 1.1 API to understand how to bu

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread Shripad K
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:54 PM, ANIKET KADAM wrote: > please please provide me a link about HTTP 1.1 API www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616.html > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Abramovick wrote: > >> if your going make a website u obviously would need to require("http") or >> https

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread ANIKET KADAM
thnaks On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Shripad K wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:54 PM, ANIKET KADAM > wrote: > >> please please provide me a link about HTTP 1.1 API > > > www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616.html > > >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Abramovick wrote: >> >>> if yo

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread Abraham itule
sorry for the late reply, i was working on a project. Here is another excellent place for your to learn node.js http://book.mixu.net/ch1.html # I have read the book "eloquent javascript" before in the past, and i can guarantee u that it is an excellent book and a good place for you to start. On W

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread ANIKET KADAM
I know HTML and CSS, but I have very little Javascript experience and very little programing knowlege. I have decided to learn back-end web development. I choose Node.js over Ruby on Rails . The reason I choose Node.js is beca

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread Abraham itule
As others have recommended u, i would also recommend you learning node.js. As you have clearly stated yourself, node.js is javascript. Now i personally before even nodejs came out, i had learnt JavaScript and i was doing some front end stuff. But when nodejs came n i tried to learn it, i was kinda

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread ANIKET KADAM
thanks for your time can you give me a very short roadmap for learning Javascript ( espically async javascript programming ) Please help me because i m learning alone thats why. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Abraham itule wrote: > As others have recommended u, i would also recommend you lea

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread Diogo Resende
I would encourage you to read the pages at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript and avoid any Google links do w3schools. -- Diogo Resende On Wednesday, August 29, 2012 at 20:34 , ANIKET KADAM wrote: > thanks for your time > > can you give me a very short roadmap for learning

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread Mark Hahn
> avoid any Google links to w3schools. Or any other links to w3schools. :-) On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Diogo Resende wrote: > I would encourage you to read the pages at > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript and avoid any Google > links do w3schools. > > -- > Diogo Resende

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread ANIKET KADAM
can anyone Provide me with Road map for learning Node.js with express framework => so that i can stick to my wall Please help On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Diogo Resende wrote: > I would encourage you to read the pages at > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript and avoid any Goog

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread ANIKET KADAM
ok you people awesome, very help full thanks for you support. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Mark Hahn wrote: > > avoid any Google links to w3schools. > > Or any other links to w3schools. :-) > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Diogo Resende > wrote: > >> I would encourage you to read the

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread Abraham itule
Once u know JavaScript, learning API/libraries & frameworks is easy. U just read the Documentation. So to learn node.js or express or socket.io or require.js or jQuery or any other JavaScript API/Library just go on their websites and look at the documentation. (Most JavaScript API/Library are docu

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread ANIKET KADAM
That means all future steps of learning is depends on my current Javascript Learning, then in that case one should master javascript Right? On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Abraham itule wrote: > Once u know JavaScript, learning API/libraries & frameworks is easy. U > just read the Documentation

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread ANIKET KADAM
and what about CoffeeScript On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:33 AM, ANIKET KADAM wrote: > That means all future steps of learning is depends on my current > Javascript Learning, then in that case one should master javascript > Right? > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Abraham itule wrote: > >> Once

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread Sugarstack
Using coffeescript requires you to understand the JavaScript it generates and how/why it generates it that way I would not use it until you are comfortable with js first. -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelin

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread ANIKET KADAM
did one should master javascript for learning node.js and express.js On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Sugarstack wrote: > Using coffeescript requires you to understand the JavaScript it generates > and how/why it generates it that way > > I would not use it until you are comfortable with js firs

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread Diogo Resende
Yes. Node is just a javascript environment with a usable async API. Express is on top of Node. Stick with JavaScript, learn the basis, play with it in the browser if you like, you can use jQuery if you want, just stick with JS. After that, jump to Node and read the entire docs, it's not that bi

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread ANIKET KADAM
is said that in many blogs that => rails is suitable for "*Traditional web app*" so Please tell me why* node.js* with *espress.js* is not suitable for *Traditional app* with has lot of CRUD things. or is node.js is just meant for Real time app On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Diogo Resende wrote:

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread Shripad K
Rails is a framework on top of Ruby. So you can't compare Rails to Node.JS. You can do CRUD with Node.JS. You can do in Nodejs everything that can be done in Ruby. Only the default paradigm is different. One is synchronous, blocking and the other is asynchronous, non-blocking by default. You can us

Re: [nodejs] Re: Is it a good idea for me to learn node.js?

2012-08-29 Thread ANIKET KADAM
is node with express is suitable for building large apps like ecommerce site or real estae portal On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Shripad K wrote: > Rails is a framework on top of Ruby. So you can't compare Rails to > Node.JS. You can do CRUD with Node.JS. You can do in Nodejs everything that >