[NSP] Re: The great choyte debate redux

2008-08-25 Thread Christopher.Birch
> >Maybe we should regard the odd 'ornamental' choyte in the same >way - the >beginning of a slippery slope. > >But let him who is without sin And of course Pärt chose to write the piece. So maybe we can assume that like the rest of us he's a bit partial to a bit of sin now and again ;-)

[NSP] Re: The great choyte debate redux

2008-08-25 Thread Christopher.Birch
Boyden of course is not the last word in research on the history of violin playing. I gather from other sources that not all old bows were shorter, even though such authorities as Jaap Schroeder continue to state that they were. Don't get me wrong, I have the greatest respect for Jaa

[NSP] Re: The great choyte debate redux

2008-08-25 Thread Christopher.Birch
>Also being in the Folk genre doesn't mean 'anything goes'. Hear hear hear hear hear, and so on. This point cannot be emphasised enough. chirs To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: The great choyte debate redux

2008-08-25 Thread Matt Seattle
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Sheila wrote (in answer to my): >> playing a full set of satisfying >variations is the most fun one can have . . . >> > >But for the audience, most frequently, this can seem like the most >boring performance of an end

[NSP] Re: The great choyte debate redux

2008-08-25 Thread Steve Bliven
On 8/25/08 9:03 AM, "Matt Seattle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Following from this and Ian Lawther's remarks on Chris Ormston at >Killington, I would venture the heretical and dangerously unpopular >view that an 'average' musically literate audience is more educated and >open-minded

[NSP] Re: The great choyte debate redux

2008-08-25 Thread Wayne Cripps
As a foreigner, I would like to know how "choyte" is pronounced. Like "boy"? or "boat"? or with two syllables? Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Choyting - possible source of word and Plaid

2008-08-25 Thread malcraven
Hi all, For several years my father was at sea with a mixed crew of Hebridean Islanders and other Scots. Apparently the scots refered to the Islander as 'choochters' (chew- k-ters) not sure of spelling; this is an aural history. The name described the babbling nature of the island Gaelic speech.

[NSP] Re: Choyting - possible source of word and Plaid

2008-08-25 Thread Ian Lawther
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, For several years my father was at sea with a mixed crew of Hebridean Islanders and other Scots. Apparently the scots refered to the Islander as 'choochters' (chew- k-ters) not sure of spelling; this is an aural history. The name described the babbling nature of

[NSP] Re: Choyting - possible source of word and Plaid

2008-08-25 Thread richard-moriarty
The teuchter is a derisive name for a highlander - DSL - SND1 TEUCHTER, n. A term of disparagement or contempt used in Central Scotland for a Highlander, esp. one speaking Gaelic, or anyone from the North, an uncouth, countrified person (Cai., e. and wm.Sc. 1972), jocularly also applied to anima

[NSP] Re: Choyting - possible source of word and Plaid

2008-08-25 Thread Anita Evans
Not wanting to be left out, here's my twopence worth.. could it be pronounced coyte, or quoit? Quoit (?), n. [OE. coite; cf. OF. coitier to spur, press, (assumed) LL. coctare, fr. L. coquere, coctum, to cook, burn, vex, harass, E. cook, also W. coete a quoit.] I particularly like the referen

[NSP] Re: Choyting - possible source of word and Plaid

2008-08-25 Thread rosspipes
As one who is married to a Scot and being half Scotch myself I am familiar with the 'choocter' (teuchter) word which I was told referred to sound of the Gaelic language spoken in Glasgow by all the Highlanders and Islanders who came looking for work. It was thought to sound like chooky birds (he

[NSP] more choyting on 'choyte'

2008-08-25 Thread John_Dally
This conversation, with it's figgleligee , provoked a perusal of my foxed copy of Jameson's Dictionary of the Scottish Language (Aberdeen: 1867). The word 'quyte' means "to skate or play upon the ice as with curling stones". Depending on one's style of choyting, choyting might be c

[NSP] Re: Choyting - possible source of word and Plaid

2008-08-25 Thread Julia . Say
On 25 Aug 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I liked the idea that some one had that Clough thought that some > players of the small pipes sounded like pit canaries used to test for > firedamp. My recollection is that this came from Thomas Todd (1827-1903) - and in essence was that canaries cho

[NSP] Re: Choyting - possible source of word

2008-08-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello All, As far as I can see, 'choyte' isn't in Heslop's work on Northumbrian Words (1892/95). Nor does there seem to be anything that might sound similar. The word isn't in Griffiths 'Dictionary of North East Dialect' (2004), either, nor in Geeson's 'Northumberland and Durham Word Book' (