Re: [NTG-context] Feature request

2005-07-26 Thread luigi.scarso
Hans Hagen wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: for that, but it doesn't take the baseline into consideration, so it has to be manually tuned for every line, every font & every font size (printed and compared if it looks OK). \definelayer[text][height=\textheight,width=\textwidth] \showgrid \st

Re: [NTG-context] PDF output versions?

2005-07-26 Thread luigi.scarso
Brooks Moses wrote: I just noticed that when I compile ConTeXt files with texexec -pdf, my copy of Acrobat 5 complains about "the PDF version of this file is too new for this viewer", but when I compile LaTeX files with pdflatex, I don't get that complaint. Is there some way to set ConTeXt a

[NTG-context] Ligature handling for PDF searching.

2005-07-26 Thread Brooks Moses
(This came up on comp.text.tex in a question about LaTeX, but it also applies to ConTeXt, and the proposed solution for LaTeX doesn't apply.) Consider the following document: \starttext Some ligature tests: ff, fi, ffi, fl, ffl. \stoptext If I process that with texexex -pdf, load it into

Re: [NTG-context] "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening

2005-07-26 Thread Brooks Moses
Oh, one more thing At 05:29 PM 7/26/2005, Mojca Miklavec wrote: I'm looking forward to what my LaTeX colleagues will say about that when I present them ConTeXt and the tricks like that :) After you've had your fun with them, you can give them the slovenianletters.sty file (and the associa

[NTG-context] PDF output versions?

2005-07-26 Thread Brooks Moses
I just noticed that when I compile ConTeXt files with texexec -pdf, my copy of Acrobat 5 complains about "the PDF version of this file is too new for this viewer", but when I compile LaTeX files with pdflatex, I don't get that complaint. Is there some way to set ConTeXt and texexec to create P

Re: [NTG-context] "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening

2005-07-26 Thread Brooks Moses
At 05:29 PM 7/26/2005, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Brooks Moses wrote: > Ok; I've updated the versions on my website to include the other two extra > characters as well. > >http://dpdx.net/context/slovenian/ > > Does the test file look like it does all of the enumerations correctly now? Only the f

Re: [NTG-context] "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening

2005-07-26 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Brooks Moses wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >Brooks Moses wrote: > >>So, anyhow, I wrote up a short third-party module to handle Slovenian > >>character enumeration (can I presume that the rest of the alphabet > >>ordering is the same as English?), > > > >Ordering is the same, but in English some

Re: [NTG-context] "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening

2005-07-26 Thread Brooks Moses
At 04:35 PM 7/26/2005, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Brooks Moses wrote: So, anyhow, I wrote up a short third-party module to handle Slovenian character enumeration (can I presume that the rest of the alphabet ordering is the same as English?), Ordering is the same, but in English some very strange l

Re: [NTG-context] "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening

2005-07-26 Thread Mojca Miklavec
You people are just impossible, I have nothing else to say! I don't even have time to test the first answer when already another three or five posts appear on the list !!! If it is going to continue that way, I'll soon become affraid of the (black) magic ruling the list :) Thanks a lot. I di

Re: [NTG-context] Feature request

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: for that, but it doesn't take the baseline into consideration, so it has to be manually tuned for every line, every font & every font size (printed and compared if it looks OK). \definelayer[text][height=\textheight,width=\textwidth] \showgrid \starttext \startstand

Re: [NTG-context] "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening

2005-07-26 Thread Brooks Moses
At 02:01 PM 7/26/2005, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Hello Hans, Today I saw a webpage of someone, who is very active in the field of translation and localisation of free software into Slovenian. It astonished me the way he numered the items on his webpage: (a) approximation ... (b) Gauss ... (c) numer

[NTG-context] Re: test suite in the garden

2005-07-26 Thread Patrick Gundlach
[...] > No, this wouldn't make any sense. I was thinking about PDF to PNG > conversion and bitwise comparison of the files, which could be made > automatically. Each time a new version would be uploaded, the > documents would be compiled, any compilation errors caught and any > image differences

Re: [NTG-context] Feature request

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: But figure labels are needed (do they interfere?) figure labels are part of the float Hans -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Ha

Re: [NTG-context] "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi Mojca Not right away, but any time in the future when unicode, fonts and the future is now ... \def\mojcaniannumber#1% {\ifcase#1 \or m\or o\or j\or c\or a\or m\or i\or k\or l\or a\or v\or e\or c\else \expandafter\mojcaniannumber\expandafter{\the\numexpr#1-13\relax}\fi} \defineconv

Re: [NTG-context] Re: test suite in the garden

2005-07-26 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Patrick Gundlach wrote: > > >> It is perhaps a lot of work included, but extending the > >> contextgarden.net in such a way that users could provide test cases > >> which would be typeset with different ConTeXt versions and PNGs > >> compared afterwards ... could make it easier to discover any bro

Re: [NTG-context] \parbox, \framed, ... (was: Strange behaviour of \bTABLE ... \eTABLE)

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: 1.) I saw \hbox, \vbox, \vtop, \lbox, \cbox, \rbox, \sbox, \tbox, \bbox on page 106 of cont-eni.pdf. But if I understand it properly, there's no alternative to LaTeX \parbox command. 1.1.) After grep-ing the LaTeX tree for "\parbox", my disk ran out of space 1.2.) \bTABLE .

Re: [NTG-context] "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: However, those people who really care, use the Slovenian alphabet when enumerating (manually, of course). I'm proud, for example, that I was in the class "1.Č" in the high school. Not right away, but any time in the future when unicode, fonts and similar will be updated/re

Re: [NTG-context] Position margin text block near previous paragraph

2005-07-26 Thread Elena Fraboschi
Thank you, Hans: I do like it when someone "beats me to the punch" :-) I learned something, and on top of it I didn't have to spend any time :-) (You got us all spoiled rottin, though) Best, elena P.S. And I do prefer the ConTeXt way of doing things rather than using ConTeXt to do LaTeX (exce

Re: [NTG-context] "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: This should actually be the only proper way to number items in Slovenian, but you can imagine that nobody is able to use that since the beginning of computer era. (Another example is the usage of quotation marks: most people use the American quotation marks instead of the G

Re: [NTG-context] music typesetting for ConTeXt

2005-07-26 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2005-07-26 um 00:08 schrieb Hans Hagen: actually the code for that kind of trickery is already presen tfor soem time, see m-pstric for an example; now, what we probably need is a small extension to page-app, i.e. the command you want to execute; can you give an example of a lilipond call?

Re: [NTG-context] "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: I don't know if there is any special agreement in case there are more than 26 items in the list, but sometimes a, b, ... x, y, z, aa, ab, ac, ... zz, aaa, aab, aac, ... is used. I never needed that many items until now, but the issue could theoretically be interesting for t

Re: [NTG-context] Position margin text block near previous paragraph

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Elena Fraboschi wrote: Just a quick comment, since I cannot try anything in LiveContext right at this time: What you want is the equivalent of LaTeX's \marginpar , which is really a \vtop whose beginning coincides with the beginning of the paragraph being \note[d]. I am thinking that this woul

[NTG-context] Re: test suite in the garden

2005-07-26 Thread Patrick Gundlach
>> It is perhaps a lot of work included, but extending the >> contextgarden.net in such a way that users could provide test cases >> which would be typeset with different ConTeXt versions and PNGs >> compared afterwards ... could make it easier to discover any broken >> functionality. It comes do

Re: [NTG-context] "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening

2005-07-26 Thread Brooks Moses
At 02:01 PM 7/26/2005, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Hello Hans, Today I saw a webpage of someone, who is very active in the field of translation and localisation of free software into Slovenian. It astonished me the way he numered the items on his webpage: (a) approximation ... (b) Gauss ... (c) numer

[NTG-context] "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening

2005-07-26 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hello Hans, Today I saw a webpage of someone, who is very active in the field of translation and localisation of free software into Slovenian. It astonished me the way he numered the items on his webpage: (a) approximation ... (b) Gauss ... (c) numerical solutions ... (č) solving parabolic ... %

[NTG-context] Re: \parbox, \framed, ...

2005-07-26 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi Mojca, [...] > anyway. I mainly wrote this because of the problems in > live.contextgarden.net which is not fixed yet (see They should be fixed now. Sorry for the delay. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net ___ ntg-context

Re: [NTG-context] Position margin text block near previous paragraph

2005-07-26 Thread Elena Fraboschi
Just a quick comment, since I cannot try anything in LiveContext right at this time: What you want is the equivalent of LaTeX's \marginpar , which is really a \vtop whose beginning coincides with the beginning of the paragraph being \note[d]. I am thinking that this would be a good test case for

[NTG-context] Position margin text block near previous paragraph

2005-07-26 Thread Eugene Toporov
Hello! This time I have a task like this: I have margin text blocks (like Note, Tip) that follow some paragraph in my document flow. In the produced document I get them in margin, but vertically they are just below the paragraph (as in text flow) I really need then to start exactly where the pr

Re: [NTG-context] Feature request

2005-07-26 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi, > > it would be great if the \placefigure macro could be extended to > combinations like ... 1.) This is not exactly the same thing, but if we're talking about graphics: is it possible to include a figure (\externalfigure, perhaps withing \placefigure) in such a way

[NTG-context] \parbox, \framed, ... (was: Strange behaviour of \bTABLE ... \eTABLE)

2005-07-26 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hans Hagen wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > %% > > > > \documentclass{article} > > \begin{document} > > a box with a table: > > \fbox{\begin{tabular}[c]{l}1\\2\\3\end{tabular}}\par > > > > a midaligned parbox: \parbox[c]{1em}{1 2 3} > > \end{document} > > > > %% > > > watch the \\ !

Re: [NTG-context] Feature request

2005-07-26 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi, > > it would be great if the \placefigure macro could be extended to > combinations like > > \placefigure{top,left} > > or > > \placefigure{bottom,outer} > > > The reason for this request is that we use ConTeXt a l

Re: [NTG-context] Feature request

2005-07-26 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi, > > it would be great if the \placefigure macro could be extended to > combinations like > > \placefigure{top,left} > > or > > \placefigure{bottom,outer} > > > The reason for this request is that we use ConTeXt a l

Re: [NTG-context] Feature request

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Hi, it would be great if the \placefigure macro could be extended to combinations like \placefigure{top,left} or \placefigure{bottom,outer} The reason for this request is that we use ConTeXt a lot for typesetting books from "arts and humanities". There we often

Re: [NTG-context] Feature request

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Hi, it would be great if the \placefigure macro could be extended to combinations like \placefigure{top,left} or \placefigure{bottom,outer} The reason for this request is that we use ConTeXt a lot for typesetting books from "arts and humanities". There we often

[NTG-context] Feature request

2005-07-26 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi, it would be great if the \placefigure macro could be extended to combinations like \placefigure{top,left} or \placefigure{bottom,outer} The reason for this request is that we use ConTeXt a lot for typesetting books from "arts and humanities". There we often have to place a lot of (m

Re: [NTG-context] Update to the newest ConTeXt version

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi, I think I've found it. You have generated the formats with the old texexec (version 5.2.4, from tetex), but that should have been done with the new one (5.4.2, from the zip file). My guess is that the old one is still somewhere in root's search path. The best way

Re: [NTG-context] Update to the newest ConTeXt version

2005-07-26 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi, I think I've found it. You have generated the formats with the old texexec (version 5.2.4, from tetex), but that should have been done with the new one (5.4.2, from the zip file). My guess is that the old one is still somewhere in root's search path. Cheers, Taco Jessica Holle wrote: U

Re: [NTG-context] inline MP refresh problem

2005-07-26 Thread Eckhart Guthöhrlein
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 at 23:56:53+0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > >>how do you define the graphic? > > > >\startreusableMPgraphic{kreis} > > fill fullcircle scaled 1cm withcolor red; > >\stopreusableMPgraphic > >\starttext > > \reuseMPgraphic{kreis} > >\stoptext > > > >When I remove 'withcolor red

Re: [NTG-context] Update to the newest ConTeXt version

2005-07-26 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Jessica Holle wrote: Hi, I've done everything like described on the page you tell, but there is a problem too rzvlabwks:/usr/sbin # texexec --version Can you show me the output of texexec --make --all please? Something went wrong at that stage, it seems. Taco

Re: [NTG-context] inline MP refresh problem

2005-07-26 Thread Taco Hoekwater
It still doesn't work here. There have been complaints about arguments not numeric on line 1889, but changing == to eq had no influence on the final result. Still need an additional run. As you said, the problem does not occur when you use runtime MP processing, and would have gone unnoticed if

Re: [NTG-context] Update to the newest ConTeXt version

2005-07-26 Thread Jessica Holle
Hi, I've done everything like described on the page you tell, but there is a problem too rzvlabwks:/usr/sbin # texexec --version TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texexec : TeXExec 5.4.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTe

Re: [NTG-context] Strange behaviour of \bTABLE ... \eTABLE

2005-07-26 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hans Hagen wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: It may actually be that the penalty for an underfull box is bigger than for the overfull one. This explains strange placing of the numbers then. let's eee what taco says ... our tex source magician may knows the dirty details lines that cannot st

Re: [NTG-context] Update to the newest ConTeXt version

2005-07-26 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Jessica Holle wrote: Hi, I'm very new at the context section. I've installed teTeX 3.0 from the sources and in the way it is explained here: http://tug.org/teTeX/tetex-src/QuickInstall Everything works fine, I can compile my files. Now I want to update my version 2005-01-31 to 2005-07-21 t

[NTG-context] Update to the newest ConTeXt version

2005-07-26 Thread Jessica Holle
Hi, I'm very new at the context section. I've installed teTeX 3.0 from the sources and in the way it is explained here: http://tug.org/teTeX/tetex-src/QuickInstall Everything works fine, I can compile my files. Now I want to update my version 2005-01-31 to 2005-07-21 texexec --version give thi

Re: [NTG-context] installing context

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote: Hans Hagen said this at Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:10:57 +0200: recovering from a disk crach and running those generator scripts is a stresstest -) both but esp the huge files (those iso trees) on an overloaded machine are tricky (fro soem time i had only a few 100 m

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX \newcommands in ConTeXt.

2005-07-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Brooks Moses wrote: At 04:28 PM 7/25/2005, you wrote: Brooks Moses wrote: I'd particularly appreciate any comments on the \newcommand and counters implementations -- those are in the t-ltcmds and t-ltcnts modules, though \newcommand also depends on t-lterrs and t-ltbase. i just took a qu

Re: [NTG-context] installing context

2005-07-26 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Stuart Jansen wrote: Okay, I give up. What's the most correct, easiest way to install ConTeXt Until Hans' new files are on-line, this is definately the most up-to-date intruction set: http://contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation Cheers, Taco __