Re: [NTG-context] TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/9, Mojca Miklavec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Dec 9, 2007 5:07 PM, Willi Egger wrote: > > > or even more weird ones: > > > !` -> inverted exclam > > > ?` -> inverted question > > > > For Spanish this is definitevely necessary. Again if coded in UTF > > there is no problem. > > Do Spansh u

Re: [NTG-context] TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''?

2007-12-10 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2007-12-09 um 00:10 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: >> In some old documents. In newer documents I use \quote and >> \quotation. >> Then there are documents that need to move back and forth between >> latex >> and context but for them I can easily define appropriate macros in >> latex. > > To be

Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] beta 0.20.1 released

2007-12-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 07 Dez 2007, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > I have just uploaded the archives for luatex 0.20.1. This Debian sid users will get 0.20.1 soon by normal update. Debian etch users can add deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX

Re: [NTG-context] TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''?

2007-12-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Maurí­cio wrote: > > Hello, > > > > just wondering: how many ConTeXt-ers depend on ligatures such as: > >'' (double quote) and '' (two single quotes) -> right double quote > > `` -> left double quote > > ,, -> DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK > > (...) > > You got replies from experience

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:09:33 +0100 > Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >>> 2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: > something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:09:33 +0100 > > Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > >>> 2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: > >

Re: [NTG-context] how to change 'figure 1.1' to '?? 1.1' (Mojca Miklavec)

2007-12-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Dec 10, 2007 7:37 AM, Dalyoung Jeong wrote: > Dear Mojca, > > > On Dec 8, 2007, at 3:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Yesterday, after I reinstalled TeXlive and updated ConTeXt, I got > >> "kpathsea: > >> Running mktextfm lmtypewriter10-regular " message. As a temporary > >> method, I > >

Re: [NTG-context] TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''?

2007-12-10 Thread Maurí­cio
>> > Hello, >> > >> > just wondering: how many ConTeXt-ers >> > depend on ligatures such as: >> >'' (double quote) and '' (two single quotes) -> right double quote >> > `` -> left double quote >> > ,, -> DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK >> > (...) >> >> You got replies from ex

Re: [NTG-context] TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''?

2007-12-10 Thread Willi Egger
Hi Mojca, On Dec 9, 2007, at 7:48 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Dec 9, 2007 5:07 PM, Willi Egger wrote: >>> or even more weird ones: >>> !` -> inverted exclam >>> ?` -> inverted question >> >> For Spanish this is definitevely necessary. Again if coded in UTF >> there is no problem. > > Do Sp

Re: [NTG-context] TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''?

2007-12-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Dec 10, 2007 1:24 PM, Maurí­cio wrote: > > What about math mode? I've not used it that > much, does it also have such kind of > 'pseudo-ligatures'? I read that what I use in > my keyboard to type minus (-) is actually > just ascii minus/hyphen, but in Unicode > there's an actual minus symbol (U+

Re: [NTG-context] how to change 'figure 1.1' to '?? 1.1' (Mojca Miklavec)

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Mojca Miklavec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Dec 10, 2007 7:37 AM, Dalyoung Jeong wrote: > > Dear Mojca, > > > > > > On Dec 8, 2007, at 3:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >> Yesterday, after I reinstalled TeXlive and updated ConTeXt, I got > > >> "kpathsea: > > >> Running mktextfm lm

[NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Zhichu Chen
Hi, I searched the mail list for a while and I got that if I didn't specify the font file, it will not be embeded and Acrobat Reader will just use its own fonts to show the characters. I want to make some Chinese documents and I think if I don't embed any fonts, it will be much smaller than it us

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Zhichu Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, Hi Chen, can't you ue XeTeX or LuaTeX for your document instead of pdfTeX, it will be easier for you because you don't need tfm and map files and you need only the typescripts. > I searched the mail list for a while and I got that if I didn't sp

Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] beta 0.20.1 released

2007-12-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Norbert Preining wrote: On Fr, 07 Dez 2007, Taco Hoekwater wrote: I have just uploaded the archives for luatex 0.20.1. This Debian sid users will get 0.20.1 soon by normal update. Debian etch users can add deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Zhichu Chen
Hi, Wolfgang On Dec 11, 2007 12:05 AM, Wolfgang Schuster < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2007/12/10, Zhichu Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi, > > Hi Chen, > > can't you ue XeTeX or LuaTeX for your document instead of pdfTeX, > it will be easier for you because you don't need tfm and map files > and

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Dec 10, 2007 4:58 PM, Zhichu Chen wrote: > > And > the second column is for the PS name of the font. I really don't know how to > write it because it has spaces in it, and when I replaced it with another PS > name that has no spaces or other special characters in it, say SimSun as a > common Sim

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Zhichu Chen
On Dec 11, 2007 12:37 AM, Mojca Miklavec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 10, 2007 4:58 PM, Zhichu Chen wrote: > > > > And > > the second column is for the PS name of the font. I really don't know > how to > > write it because it has spaces in it, and when I replaced it with > another PS > > na

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> I don't know, but in this case, I don't want to embed fonts, I don't know > how LuaTeX can do that LuaTeX knows how to not embed fonts if you ask it not to, but I'm not sure how this is handled on the ConTeXt level. >but it runs really slow on my ancient PC, especially

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> I don't know, but in this case, I don't want to embed fonts, I don't know >> how LuaTeX can do that > > LuaTeX knows how to not embed fonts if you ask it not to, but I'm not > sure how this is handled on the ConTeXt level. > >>but it runs real

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > >> I don't know, but in this case, I don't want to embed fonts, I don't know > >> how LuaTeX can do that > > > > LuaTeX knows how to not embed fonts if you ask it not to, but I'm not > > sure how this is handled on the C

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Zhichu Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, Wolfgang > > On Dec 11, 2007 12:05 AM, Wolfgang Schuster > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2007/12/10, Zhichu Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hi, > > > > Hi Chen, > > > > can't you ue XeTeX or LuaTeX for your document instead of pdfTeX, > > it will

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> Don't say this, font questions are never useless. Sure enough :-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > Slow is no word for the speed with CJK, I have a document with Adobe > Kozuka Minchi and Gothic and run takes up to 3 to 4 minutes. An example document (offlist) would be good ... ___ I

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Mojca Miklavec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Dec 10, 2007 4:58 PM, Zhichu Chen wrote: > > > > And > > the second column is for the PS name of the font. I really don't know how to > > write it because it has spaces in it, and when I replaced it with another PS > > name that has no spaces or

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > Slow is no word for the speed with CJK, I have a document with Adobe > Kozuka Minchi and Gothic and run takes up to 3 to 4 minutes. > > The same document needs with XeTeX about half a minute and using the > same fonts in plain TeX took only a few seconds. > > This is r

[NTG-context] Project file structure

2007-12-10 Thread Jeff Smith
Hi all! I know that ConTeXt looks for files *higher*in the directory tree when it doesn't find them. But is there a way to tell ConTeXt to specifically look for files lower in the tree? One of my project - a dictionary - will involve thousands of component files, as the best way to manage its prod

Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] beta 0.20.1 released

2007-12-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 10 Dez 2007, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ > > deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ > > > >This release of luatex for Debian ships an improved texdoc written in > >texlua by Frank Küster. Please report any strange thi

Re: [NTG-context] Project file structure

2007-12-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Jeff Smith wrote: > Hi all! > > I know that ConTeXt looks for files *higher*in the directory tree when > it doesn't find them. But is there a way to tell ConTeXt to > specifically look for files lower in the tree? One of my project - a > dictionary - will involve thousands of component files, as t

Re: [NTG-context] [Dev-luatex] beta 0.20.1 released

2007-12-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Norbert Preining wrote: On Mo, 10 Dez 2007, Aditya Mahajan wrote: deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ luatex/ This release of luatex for Debian ships an improved texdoc written in texlua by Fra

Re: [NTG-context] Project file structure

2007-12-10 Thread Jeff Smith
On Dec 10, 2007 5:38 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in mkiv we can consider such a feature because we no longer depend on kpse > > Hans That would be great. :-) I've been sticking with mkii+XeTeX but that would be enough for me to make the switch, whenever it's advisable (say, when

Re: [NTG-context] how to change 'figure 1.1' to '?? 1.1'

2007-12-10 Thread Jeong Dalyoung
Dear Mojca and Wolfgang, I am sorry to give you a unclear question. We usually write the chapter title "(a character) (chapter no) (a character) (chapter title)" and I know how to set chapter title as above form using setuplabel or setuphead.

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Zhichu Chen
Thanks guys, Actually, I'm running Debian on a very small partition, so I don't have much spaces for the font cache. So every time I wanna download a big patch like openoffice, KDE upgrade or something else, the cache is the first thing I delete. I don't think it makes much sense so I just make lu