Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-03-01 Thread Hans Hagen
On 29-2-2012 08:34, Honza Hejzl wrote: Just a little P. S. Here is the typical view of fully embedded fonts (Scribus made): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4393365/embedded.png I wonder if that one has the proper tounicode vectors which are definitely needed when the printing house wants to cut /

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-29 Thread Honza Hejzl
I am not at linux machine now but can provide those pdfs. (Thanks for your recommendation of pdffonts.) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4393365/obalka_skand_fi_x1.pdf (Scribus embedded) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4393365/navrh_auditorium.pdf (ConTeXt subset) Thanks, Honza

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-29 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Honza Hejzl honza.he...@gmail.com wrote: I am not at linux machine now but can provide those pdfs. (Thanks for your recommendation of pdffonts.) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4393365/obalka_skand_fi_x1.pdf (Scribus embedded)

[NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread Honza Hejzl
Hi, does anybody know how to really embed fonts into a pdffile? I have checked and read many conversations on that topic here but without the real solution (just a tons of arguments about how problematic/unethic it could be… and so on). I know well MKIV subsets all fonts. Yes, it is really good

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen
On 28-2-2012 15:39, Honza Hejzl wrote: Hi, does anybody know how to really embed fonts into a pdffile? I have checked and read many conversations on that topic here but without the real solution (just a tons of arguments about how problematic/unethic it could be… and so on). I know well MKIV

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread Martin Schröder
2012/2/28 Honza Hejzl honza.he...@gmail.com: satisfy 99 % of modern printing offices. Embedding of all fonts is very typical demand of them. I really need it, sometimes it is not good or Check the yellow pages for a printing house that does not demand that. :-) Best Martin

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen
On 28-2-2012 16:05, Honza Hejzl wrote: P. S. It could be great to have +/– choice of subset/embed. as Martin says ... maybe consider a different printing house ... at least ask them why they want an fully embedded font and if they can define what fully means in these open type days ... what

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 03:39:04PM +0100, Honza Hejzl wrote: Hi, does anybody know how to really embed fonts into a pdffile? I have checked and read many conversations on that topic here but without the real solution (just a tons of arguments about how problematic/unethic it could be… and so

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread Honza Hejzl
Check the yellow pages for a printing house that does not demand that. :-) Best Martin I am sorry, but that is absolutely typical demand, I have never seen at least one printing house which does not demand that... (And this is not a solution! :o)) In nowadays it is the client who choose

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen
On 28-2-2012 19:08, Honza Hejzl wrote: Check the yellow pages for a printing house that does not demand that. :-) Best Martin I am sorry, but that is absolutely typical demand, I have never seen at least one printing house which does not demand that... (And this is not a solution! :o))

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen
On 28-2-2012 18:38, Khaled Hosny wrote: When using map files 'fontfile' should tell the engine to fully embed the font, but since MkIV does not use map files you can't use this. Alternatively, font table passed from lua to pdf backed have an 'embedding' key and setting it to 'full' should fully

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread Martin Schröder
2012/2/28 Honza Hejzl honza.he...@gmail.com: PDF file must be version 1.3 Yellow pages. Now. Choose one that can handle PDF/X-4. PDF 1.4 was released in 2001. If they need 1.3, their software is probably a decade old. Best Martin

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2012-02-28 um 21:23 schrieb Martin Schröder: 2012/2/28 Honza Hejzl honza.he...@gmail.com: PDF file must be version 1.3 Yellow pages. Now. Choose one that can handle PDF/X-4. PDF 1.4 was released in 2001. If they need 1.3, their software is probably a decade old. No, they just keep to

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net wrote: Am 2012-02-28 um 21:23 schrieb Martin Schröder: 2012/2/28 Honza Hejzl honza.he...@gmail.com: PDF file must be version 1.3 Yellow pages. Now. Choose one that can handle PDF/X-4. PDF 1.4 was released in 2001. If

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread Honza Hejzl
Just a little P. S. Here is the typical view of fully embedded fonts (Scribus made): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4393365/embedded.png And here the typical view of subset fonts (ConTeXt made): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4393365/subset.png I will try to discuss that with somebody from the industry...

Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

2012-02-28 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Honza Hejzl honza.he...@gmail.com wrote: Just a little P. S. Here is the typical view of fully embedded fonts (Scribus made): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4393365/embedded.png And here the typical view of subset fonts (ConTeXt made):