Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-21 Thread Alan Stone
> > You're playing games with me, do you? > Nope. I'm playing with ctx/ltx, testing by trial and error what's possible. > > You need the same name for both typefaces. > Hmmm... I was definitely interpreting this too literally then. Thanks for your support enabling me to better understand ctx/

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:25 PM, John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 19 July 2008 06:03:43 am Alan Stone wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Charles P. Schaum >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> wrote: >> > With Ubuntu and fonts there are several things going on. >> >> Which bege

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> \starttypescript[myFonts] >> \definetypeface [mySerifFont] [rm] [serif] [mySerifFont] [default] >> \definetypeface [mySansFont] [ss] [sans] [mySansFont] [default] >> \stoptypescript > > \starttypescript[myFonts] >

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-20 Thread Alan Stone
> \starttypescript[myFonts] > \definetypeface [mySerifFont] [rm] [serif] [mySerifFont] [default] > \definetypeface [mySansFont] [ss] [sans] [mySansFont] [default] > \stoptypescript \starttypescript[myFonts] \definetypeface [myFonts] [rm] [serif] [mySerifFont] [default] \definetypef

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-19 Thread John Culleton
On Saturday 19 July 2008 06:03:43 am Alan Stone wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Charles P. Schaum > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > With Ubuntu and fonts there are several things going on. > > Which begets the question... > > Regarding font installation, detection and other (non font r

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-19 Thread Alan Stone
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Charles P. Schaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With Ubuntu and fonts there are several things going on. Which begets the question... Regarding font installation, detection and other (non font related) issues which occur recurrently when working with (Con)TeX(t),

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-18 Thread Charles P. Schaum
With Ubuntu and fonts there are several things going on. Generally, the system-wide fonts are kept under /usr/share/fonts An alternate place could be /usr/local/fonts That, however, is usually empty because packages put fonts in named directories, e.g., in the ttf dir in /usr/share/fonts TeX-re

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-18 Thread Andrea Valle
Yes, please. I totally agree with Alan. Sorry if I insist. Best -a- On 18 Jul 2008, at 22:45, Alan Stone wrote: Thanks a lot for your helpful comments Wolfgang. I will add to my todo list "Write a few lines about font installation for XeTeX and LuaTeX and how to use them in style keys". Wi

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-18 Thread Diego Depaoli
2008/7/18 Wolfgang Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> but this issue still exists in Ubuntu with such fonts imported from Windows. >> Where mtxrun catches fonts filenames? > > Hi Diego, Hello Wolfgang, > > we are talking about two differents things, what you mean is the filename > of the fonts you co

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-18 Thread Alan Stone
Thanks a lot for your helpful comments Wolfgang. I will add to my todo list "Write a few lines about font installation > for XeTeX and LuaTeX and how to use them in style keys". With the bits and pieces of information ( current and outdated ) about these matters presently being scattered all ove

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-18 Thread Olivier Guéry
> I will add to my todo list "Write a few lines about font installation > for XeTeX and LuaTeX and how to use them in style keys". Here ? http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTex Olivier. -- [Message tapé sur un clavier Bépo : http://www.clavier-dvorak.org ] http://nemolivier.blogspot.com

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Diego Depaoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/7/17 Wolfgang Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Diego Depaoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> 2008/7/16 Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> [snip] Many thanks in advance for your enl

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Wolfgang. > >> calm down. > > Done. > > I've let some steam off earlier on.OoOo<:O) > >>\setuphead[chapter][style=\ >> >> >myHeadingsFont\myChapterFont] >> > >> >You have to load 'myHeadingsfont' typescript before y

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-17 Thread Diego Depaoli
2008/7/17 Wolfgang Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Diego Depaoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 2008/7/16 Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> [snip] >>> Many thanks in advance for your enlightening help. >> >> For some obscure reason right fontnames are linked with wr

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-17 Thread Alan Stone
Thanks Wolfgang. > calm down. Done. I've let some steam off earlier on.OoOo<:O) >\setuphead[chapter][style=\ > > >myHeadingsFont\myChapterFont] > > > >You have to load 'myHeadingsfont' typescript before you can use > >them because they are not available on outer level, only fonts used > >as

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (1) \definefont[myChapterFont][myHeadingsFont sa 1.728] >>You could either use a real font name like 'Arial' or a symbolic name >>defined with \definefontsynonym like 'Serif', 'SerifBold', 'Sans', >>'Dummy-Regular' etc. in th

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi Alan, calm down. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (1) \definefont[myChapterFont][myHeadingsFont sa 1.728] >>You could either use a real font name like 'Arial' or a symbolic name >>defined with \definefontsynonym like 'Serif', 'SerifBold', 'Sans', >>'Dum

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Diego Depaoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/7/16 Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [snip] >> Many thanks in advance for your enlightening help. > > For some obscure reason right fontnames are linked with wrong filenames. > This is the output of > mtxrun --script

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-16 Thread Diego Depaoli
I missed... 2008/7/17 Diego Depaoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > You must rename the files (tested, it works with --lua and --xtx switches >) -- Diego Depaoli ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, pleas

Re: [NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-16 Thread Diego Depaoli
2008/7/16 Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [snip] > Many thanks in advance for your enlightening help. For some obscure reason right fontnames are linked with wrong filenames. This is the output of mtxrun --script fonts --list on my system [...] times new romanTimes New Roma

[NTG-context] Losing my patience with (understanding) ConTeXt/LuaTeX's font handling... [ re: Whacko font behaviour ? ( Or Am I ? :O) ]

2008-07-16 Thread Alan Stone
> (1) \definefont[myChapterFont][myHeadingsFont sa 1.728] >You could either use a real font name like 'Arial' or a symbolic name >defined with \definefontsynonym like 'Serif', 'SerifBold', 'Sans', >'Dummy-Regular' etc. in the second argument of \definefont but not >the name for a font collection de