[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

2024-07-11 Thread Thangalin
Thanks vm! Sadly, I have no way of telling the 4,000+ people who have downloaded my Markdown editor how they ought to compose and typeset their prose. I'll let Robert Bringhurst know, though, and ask him to change Rule 4.1.5 of his Elements of Typographic Style from "include the initial quotation

[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

2024-07-10 Thread vm via ntg-context
On 11/07/2024 01:55, Thangalin wrote: Any other ideas? Yes, change/edit the text to avoid the quotation marks in the first place. e.g. There are always better/simpler ways to achieve the story to be told. Trace back to the underlying idea as why these drop capitals were invented in the f

[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

2024-07-10 Thread Thangalin
Hi again, The output shows a closing red opening quotation mark, which is the opposite of what I'd like to achieve. Using \quotation won't work in my situation because the text mixes and matches numerous types of quotation marks and the user is writing in Markdown. Matching against “ would work fo

[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

2024-07-10 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 7/10/2024 10:56 AM, Thangalin wrote: Thank you Hans. That's pretty close. Is there a way to make the opening quotation mark smaller? Ideally, control the font and colour? You can try this (patch): \protected\def\typo_initial_handle_indeed#1#2% {\dontleavehmode \begingroup \cdef\cu

[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

2024-07-10 Thread Thangalin
Thank you Hans. That's pretty close. Is there a way to make the opening quotation mark smaller? Ideally, control the font and colour? Cheers! On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 12:25 AM Hans Hagen via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > On 7/10/2024 9:10 AM, Thangalin wrote: > > From TeX.SE, the f

[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

2024-07-10 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 7/10/2024 9:10 AM, Thangalin wrote: From TeX.SE, the following solution works; however, it doesn't feel like the "ConTeXt way": % SOT \setuplocalboxes[leftmargin][     style=\bfd,     color=darkred,     distance=0pt, ] \unprotect \define\quoteinitial{%     \futureexpandisap“\quoteiniti

[NTG-context] Re: Quotation mark in drop caps

2024-07-10 Thread Thangalin
>From TeX.SE, the following solution works; however, it doesn't feel like the "ConTeXt way": % SOT \setuplocalboxes[leftmargin][ style=\bfd, color=darkred, distance=0pt, ] \unprotect \define\quoteinitial{% \futureexpandisap“\quoteinitial_true\quoteinitial_false% } \define\quotein