[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-23 Thread Hamid,Idris
8 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters (It seems he never considered making it an opentype feature in the font itself, but since his focus is/was XeTeX/HB (HB is rather rigid and dictatorial) I guess that's not surpri

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 9/22/2023 3:51 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote: -- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> To "ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 9/22/2023 7:15:25 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Togglin

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-22 Thread Hamid,Idris
-- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> To "ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 9/22/2023 7:15:25 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner a

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-22 Thread Hamid,Idris
-- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> To "ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 9/22/2023 7:03:34 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner a

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9/22/2023 2:39 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote: b. we want all Unicode control symbols to be suppressed in final pdf output (for, e.g., printing). they basically are unless some font features keeps them around which is out of our control irr it was you who wanted them to be wiped decades ago as som

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, I found it ... \startbuffer \definedfont[almfixed*default]hello w\zwnj o\zwj r\zwnj l\zwj d \stopbuffer \getbuffer \start \setcharacterstripping[1] \getbuffer \stop so now, being its only user, you have to wikify it ... Hans --

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-22 Thread Hamid,Idris
3 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters 1. Can this approach be generalized to get what we want, viz., a way to toggle the symbols? given the inconsistency in what is or is not in a font the only way out is to have our own

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
/21/2023 3:29:22 PM Subject Re: [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters Many thanks, Hans. The method appears to work only for nbsp, not zwj etc. Here is the updated MWE: === \startTEXpage[offset=1em] \disabletrackers[typesett

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-21 Thread Hamid,Idris
-- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> To "Hamid,Idris" mailto:idris.ha...@colostate.edu>>; "mailing list for ConTeXt users" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 9/21/2023 3:29:22 PM Subject Re: [NTG-context] Re: T

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-21 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9/21/2023 10:53 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote: -- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> To "ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 9/21/2023 8:52:45 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re:

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-21 Thread Hamid,Idris
-- Original Message -- From "Hans Hagen" mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> To "ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>" mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> Date 9/21/2023 8:52:45 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner a

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-21 Thread Hans Hagen
On 9/21/2023 3:31 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote: Dear gang, Within a font, relevant Unicode control characters such as the zero-width joiner usually have symbolic representation, but in printing the symbols are usually suppressed, while the effect of each character is maintained. In some text editors