Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Hi Arthur, "I would sooner have you hate me for telling the truth than adore me for telling lies." - Pietro Aretino As for the invitation to the reference project, thanks a lot. I have some work to finish first, then will have some free time to gladly contribute. Wishing you a nice day ( no iro

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

> There is a context reference project, you can help to document it~ I concur. This would be immensely more useful than contributing huge threads and smart-arse remarks to this mailing-list (I especially like the irony of your -- Alan's -- complaints about "wasting [your] precious time").

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

There is a context reference project, you can help to document it~ On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you, or somebody else, know of any such other basic and precious > documents which should be included in the main manual, instead of (for > whatever reason

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Do you, or somebody else, know of any such other basic and precious documents which should be included in the main manual, instead of (for whatever reason) hidden in some subdomain or subdirectory ? Best, Alan On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Patrick Gundlach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > >

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Alan Stone wrote: >>> - \showsetups output >> The \setuplayout parameters are in column one, the query-ing macros >> are in column four. These are correct. > > > Good to finally know what corresponds to what. It might be useful to put > a label mentioning these at the top of both columns. > > Wh

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

> > > - \showsetups output > > The \setuplayout parameters are in column one, the query-ing macros > are in column four. These are correct. Good to finally know what corresponds to what. It might be useful to put a label mentioning these at the top of both columns. What do you mean by "query-ing

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Alan Stone wrote: > Thanks Taco. > >> I am somewhat confused myself as to why this is generally considered to be > so confusing. > > What's most confusing are the: Ok, that helped make me understand. > - wiki layout explanation at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layout This is indeed confusing

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Hi, > Meanwhile found the underneath document, which seems to be the most > corresponding > ( though incomplete compared to pg 24 of the main manual ) > > Shows a page layout in half size > http://levana.de/context/layout/testlay.pdf made with http://modules.contextgarden.net/t-layout Patrick

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > indeed, you have to see these dimensions outwards (so, margindistance, > margin, edgedistance, edge ... these extend into the backspace or > cutspace depending on left/right) Ahaa. I'm beginning to understand. Meanwhile

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Thanks Taco. >I am somewhat confused myself as to why this is generally considered to be so confusing. What's most confusing are the: - wiki layout explanation at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layout - \showsetups output - excursion manual, table 33.2 page 74 - main manual page 24 - \setuplayou

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Alan Stone wrote: > > CanItBeAnyMoreConfusingText ? From left to right, you have: (left)edge (left)edgedistance (left)margin (left)margindistance width (right)margindistance (right)margin (right)edgedistance (right)edge The location of all this on the paper is define

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Alan Stone wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Alan Stone wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Alan Stone wrote: > Going back to my example (see below)... > > Same observations, same

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan Stone wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Alan Stone wrote: > >>> Going back to my example (see below)... > >>> > >>> Same observations, same questions. > >>> > >>>

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan Stone wrote: > > Going back to my example (see below)... > > > > Same observations, same questions. > > > > Alan > > > > \setuppapersize[S6][S6] > > > > \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, > > headerheight=15pt, > > foo

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Alan Stone wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Alan Stone wrote: >>> Going back to my example (see below)... >>> >>> Same observations, same questions. >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> \setuppapersize[S6][S6] >>> >>> \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, >>> headerh

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

>That said, it is a little confusing that the table from >\showsetups doesn't match up ... A little ??? Alan On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan Stone wrote: > > Going back to my example (see below)... > > > > Same observations, same questions. > >

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Alan Stone wrote: > Going back to my example (see below)... > > Same observations, same questions. The names and values reported by showsetups are not 1-to-1 to the arguments of \setuplayout. If you want to know what you can use in \setuplayout, use any of the manuals, or texshow: http://texs

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Alan Stone wrote: > Going back to my example (see below)... > > Same observations, same questions. > > Alan > > \setuppapersize[S6][S6] > > \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, > headerheight=15pt, > footerheight=15pt, > bottomheight=15pt, top,header,footer,bottom etc no height/width appen

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Going back to my example (see below)... Same observations, same questions. Alan \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, headerheight=15pt, footerheight=15pt, bottomheight=15pt, leftedgewidth=0pt, leftmarginwidth=0pt, rightmarginwidth=0pt, rightedgewidth=

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Alan Stone wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Aditya Mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Where did you see topheight, headerheight, footerheight, and bottomheight? >> Perhaps you wanted >> >> \setuppapersize[S6][S6] >> >> \showframe >> \showsetups move the previous line >> >> \setupl

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Aditya Mahajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where did you see topheight, headerheight, footerheight, and bottomheight? > Perhaps you wanted > > \setuppapersize[S6][S6] > > \showframe > \showsetups > > \setuplayout[topspace=15pt, > header=15pt, > height=middle,

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

>> Where did you see topheight, headerheight, footerheight, and bottomheight? 1. http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080812.135630.04ad74e5.en.html 2. From observation: see \showsetups output (right column) This part of ConTeXt and/or the instructional resources somehow got so polluted wi

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Alan Stone schrieb: > Hi Peter, > > I meant the showframe and showsetups displays on the pdf document itself, > not the document paper printout. > oeps, sorry :) you simply use some wrong parameter here (names of internal dimensions). e.g. use 'footer=15pt' instead of 'footerheight=15pt'. best

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Alan Stone wrote: > Hi, > > Taking S6 = 600pt wide x 450pt heigh for example... > > \setuppapersize[S6][S6] > > \showframe > \showsetups > > \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, > headerheight=15pt, > footerheight=15pt, > bottomheight=15pt, > leftedgewidth=0pt, > leftmarginwidth=

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Hi Peter, I meant the showframe and showsetups displays on the pdf document itself, not the document paper printout. Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

Re: [NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Alan Stone schrieb: > Hi, > > Taking S6 = 600pt wide x 450pt heigh for example... > > \setuppapersize[S6][S6] > > \showframe > \showsetups > > \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, > headerheight=15pt, > footerheight=15pt, > bottomheight=15pt, > leftedgewidth=0pt, > leftmarginwidth=0pt, > ri

[NTG-context] Still confused about \setuplayout

Hi, Taking S6 = 600pt wide x 450pt heigh for example... \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \showframe \showsetups \setuplayout[topheight=15pt, headerheight=15pt, footerheight=15pt, bottomheight=15pt, leftedgewidth=0pt, leftmarginwidth=0pt, rightmarginwidth=0pt, rightedgewidth=180pt]