Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:09:33 +0100 > > Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > >>> 2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: > >

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:09:33 +0100 > Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >>> 2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: > something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:09:33 +0100 Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > 2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: > >> > >>> something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real reason > >>> for it sin

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-07 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > 2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: >> >>> something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real reason >>> for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilities >>> (given all >>> kind of combina

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-07 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: > >> something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real reason >> for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilities >> (given all >> kind of combinations) > > I have not yet played with Lua, thus I can'

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-07 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > And even worse both engines have their own default values for fonts. add to that -- they may implement feature support differently -- fonts have bugs in lookup rules (obscured by processing engines) -- we may want to control aspects of features -- we may invent our own

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-07 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: > What about > ['fin2'] = 'Terminal Forms #2', > ['fin3'] = 'Terminal Forms #3', > ['ccmp'] = 'Glyph Composition/Decomposition', > ? :) :) :) fonts.otf.tables.to_features["Mojca's Favourite Feature] = "smsc" fonts.otf.tables.to_features["Mojca's Preferred Languag

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-07 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Well, to be honest, I wanted to ask you to do something similar to > what you did with enco-utf :) once you finish the mkiv interface. > That is, to auto-generate the list of feature mappings, so that the > interface may remain the same in XeTeX as it is in LuaTeX, like >

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Am 06.12.2007 um 18:55 schrieb Hans Hagen: > >> something like that ... >> >> keep in mind that you don't need to define a font then, >> >> {\setfontfeature{smallcaps}Some Text} >> >> will automatically give you that featureset so in practice we can do >> with only a few r

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 06.12.2007 um 18:55 schrieb Hans Hagen: > something like that ... > > keep in mind that you don't need to define a font then, > > {\setfontfeature{smallcaps}Some Text} > > will automatically give you that featureset so in practice we can do > with only a few real font definitions; mkiv keeps t

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > 2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Am 06.12.2007 um 15:37 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: >> >>> 2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: > something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see n

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > 2007/12/6, Mojca Miklavec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Dec 6, 2007 5:09 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: >>> Am 06.12.2007 um 12:32 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: >>> The general approach would be something like: \definefontfeature[mine][smcp=yes] \definefontsynonym

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/6, Mojca Miklavec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Dec 6, 2007 5:09 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > > > Am 06.12.2007 um 12:32 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: > > > > > The general approach would be something like: > > >\definefontfeature[mine][smcp=yes] > > >\definefontsynonym[a][name:Warnock Pro]

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I ran sudo ctxtools --updatecontext about one hour ago and all this > that you write here can't be found (s-pre-63.tex is the latest) ... > > Where did you mean should I "grep the sources for definefontfeature" ?? > > Steffen > > > > Am 06.12.2007 u

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Am 06.12.2007 um 15:37 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > > > 2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >> Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: > >> > >>> something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real > >>> reason >

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
I ran sudo ctxtools --updatecontext about one hour ago and all this that you write here can't be found (s-pre-63.tex is the latest) ... Where did you mean should I "grep the sources for definefontfeature" ?? Steffen Am 06.12.2007 um 17:35 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: > On Dec 6, 2007 5:09 PM, St

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Dec 6, 2007 5:09 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > Am 06.12.2007 um 12:32 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: > > > The general approach would be something like: > >\definefontfeature[mine][smcp=yes] > >\definefontsynonym[a][name:Warnock Pro][features=mine] > >\showfont[a] > > (grep the sources for

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Dec 6, 2007 2:48 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > > But generally, LuaTeX is much more suitable for such previews (only > > that there might be no "newshowfont" available yet - writing one is > > doable if you know what you're interested in). > > > > My two cents: ConTeXt curren

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 06.12.2007 um 12:32 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: > The general approach would be something like: >\definefontfeature[mine][smcp=yes] >\definefontsynonym[a][name:Warnock Pro][features=mine] >\showfont[a] > (grep the sources for definefontfeature) hmm ... the only hit is in /base/font-i

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 06.12.2007 um 15:37 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > 2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: >> >>> something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real >>> reason >>> for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilitie

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 06.12.2007 um 12:32 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: > In this specific case you could use > \showfont[SerifCaps] Nice! What about other fonts, are there other arguments besides SerifCaps ? Steffen ___ If your questi

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: > > > something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real reason > > for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilities > > (given all > > kind of combinations) > > I have not yet p

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: > something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real reason > for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilities > (given all > kind of combinations) I have not yet played with Lua, thus I can't follow your and Mojca's discus

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/6, Mojca Miklavec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 12/6/07, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > Hi, > > > > when in february 2006 I asked for an alternative to fontspec that > > could show me opentype features, Adam wrote: > > > > I find that the lcdf typetools are a tremendous help: > >otfinfo -f ~/Li

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: > But generally, LuaTeX is much more suitable for such previews (only > that there might be no "newshowfont" available yet - writing one is > doable if you know what you're interested in). > > My two cents: ConTeXt currenty uses > smcp=yes,script=latn,onum=yes,liga=yes.

Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 12/6/07, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi, > > when in february 2006 I asked for an alternative to fontspec that > could show me opentype features, Adam wrote: > > I find that the lcdf typetools are a tremendous help: >otfinfo -f ~/Library/Fonts/WarnockPro-Regular.otf > and I can test the feature

[NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)

2007-12-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi, when in february 2006 I asked for an alternative to fontspec that could show me opentype features, Adam wrote: I find that the lcdf typetools are a tremendous help: otfinfo -f ~/Library/Fonts/WarnockPro-Regular.otf and I can test the features with: \showfont["Warnock Pro: +smcp"] To