Yes MS is out to make money, that is a good thing. OHHH, I feel a rant coming on.... However, most small companies who use IIS (and got both viruses and don't know to patch and secure their web servers) are NOT the persons who will switch to Apache. Heck, they don't even understand Windows 9x or Win2K let alone IIS. How in the world will they be able to setup an Apache web server? It won't happen. People use MS's products cuz they are easy to use, and any fool can load the OS (not correctly or securely, mind you). IIS installs itself (not correctly or securely mind you) but any fool can do it. AND it comes free with Win2K! No, the only people who will think to switch to Apache are the IIS people who already are relatively secure and keep up with the security issues and they don't need to. No we really need knowledgeable people to keep after MS to keep them patching as quickly as possible. If the good people all abandon MS and IIS, only those who don't know anything will keep it, and nothing will change. People don't switch from MS now, because everything is so "convenient". Heck I get grief just asking people to log off their computers when they go home or change they passwords regularly. What, you say, ask them to have a 6-14 digit password with lower, upper and special characters? That would be too incontinent! True, MS needs to tighten their security measures however, all the end-users will bit*h and complain. People want security but they don't want it at the expense of their convenience. I guess I'm done now...back to your regularly scheduled ON Topic program... Diane -----Original Message----- From: xylog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IIS check this out This is just plain wrong. Apache has a larger market share than IIS. IIS is gaining in leaps and bounds but is not and has never been the market leader. Here is a link if you don't believe me: http://www.netcraft.com/survey/ Apache is more secure, Apache has been more secure before IIS was a blip on the radar. People target IIS not because it is what the majority of people use but because it has more vulnerabilities. Granted there are a large number of IIS boxes to target but that is not the problem. It is just avoiding the core issue. MS has a problem delivering software that is secure out of the box. This is the problem and always will be until give security a higher priority than adding new features to sell software. The reality is that this will never happen because the only thing that motivates MS is money and that means selling the latest versions of there software. xylog -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IIS check this out Wow, that's pretty harsh. However, don't you think if everyone ditched IIS and moved to something else like Apache, then the bad guys would just start targeting Apache. If your goal is to bring sites down, then you get the most bang for you buck by targeting IIS. Along the same lines, most viruses target PCs and not MACs. After the Nimda virus someone on one of the lists I'm on suggested that Nimda was another example of why people should switch to MACs. Sorry, it will be a cold day in Osama's soon to be new home before I do that. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Luke Brumbaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT:IIS check this out This looks pretty bad for the home team. As of resent events, I have been working over. Unfortunately I am salary, if I was hourly, I would probably be in a significantly higher tax bracket. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/21853.html Enterprise Channel Management Software for Manufacturers Visit us at http://www.ultryx.com Want to unsub? Do that here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=ntsysadmin&text_mode=0&lang=english
