RE: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-14 Thread David Lum
I don't see this as OT at all, this is hugely relevant! My two favorite quotes: · Good IT pros are not anti-bureaucracy, as many observers think. They are anti-stupidity · Periodically, bring a few key IT brains to the boardroom to observe the problems of the organization at

Re: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-14 Thread Jon Harris
From my personal prospective I see that most of the people on government boards (volunteer), are either mainly BS'ers or just out of their depth and trying hard to keep up with the BS'ers pulling the wool over their eyes when ever they can. I have had to attend BOD meetings at my previous gig and

RE: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-14 Thread Mike French
[mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Managing Geeks From my personal prospective I see that most of the people on government boards (volunteer), are either mainly BS'ers or just out of their depth and trying hard to keep

RE: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-14 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
ENTP here. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Managing Geeks Depending on the test, I register as either ISTP or INTP On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 19:34, Richard Stovall

Re: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-14 Thread Ben Scott
2009/9/14 David Lum david@nwea.org: I don’t see this as OT at all, this is hugely relevant! Indeed. This is the NT sysadmin list, and the article is quite relevant to computer system administrators. For the record: When I was complaining about off-topic stuff recently, my complaint was

RE: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-12 Thread Erik Goldoff
, Networks, Security -Original Message- From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Managing Geeks One word. (Okay, acronym. For the sticklers.) INTJ. Anyone else? I would bet there's a higher

RE: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-12 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Never been tested, but I see myself as ESJT. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Managing Geeks Nope, ESJT here. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Richard

RE: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-11 Thread Salvador Manzo
As do I... From: Mike French [mailto:mike.fre...@theequitybank.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT] Managing Geeks I find an uncomfortable amount in common with this article...

RE: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-11 Thread Charlie Kaiser
Good article. You work for a bank. I've done a bunch of the same. We could probably tell some of the same horror stories... :-) Thanks for the link... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Mike

RE: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-11 Thread Free, Bob
As ASB would say...indeed From: Mike French [mailto:mike.fre...@theequitybank.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT] Managing Geeks I find an uncomfortable amount in common with this article...

Re: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-11 Thread John Cook
Sent it to my boss a few days ago when it came out - he was rolling on the floor. Egotistical - hrumf! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: Mike French To: NT System Admin Issues

Re: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-11 Thread Richard Stovall
One word. (Okay, acronym. For the sticklers.) INTJ. Anyone else? I would bet there's a higher number in these ranks than the general populace. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:54 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Sent it to my boss a few days ago when it came out - he was rolling on the

Re: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-11 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Nope, ESJT here. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: One word. (Okay, acronym. For the sticklers.) INTJ. Anyone else? I would bet there's a higher number in these ranks than the general populace. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:54 PM, John Cook

Re: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-11 Thread John Cook
:34:12 2009 Subject: Re: [OT] Managing Geeks One word. (Okay, acronym. For the sticklers.) INTJ. Anyone else? I would bet there's a higher number in these ranks than the general populace. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:54 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Sent it to my boss a few days ago

Re: [OT] Managing Geeks

2009-09-11 Thread Kurt Buff
Depending on the test, I register as either ISTP or INTP On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 19:34, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: One word.  (Okay, acronym.  For the sticklers.)  INTJ.  Anyone else? I would bet there's a higher number in these ranks than the general populace. On Fri, Sep 11,