RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-24 Thread Ziots, Edward
killer: Anyone see this? Simple to get past the screensaver password then? -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? Its not hard to get a

RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-23 Thread Ken Schaefer
o: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? Good point. (Although I bet stealing the laptop would be prone to being uncovered, too. ;-) (Yes, I get that it's before vs after the data theft. :) ) ) On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Ken Schaefer wrote

Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-23 Thread Ben Scott
Good point. (Although I bet stealing the laptop would be prone to being uncovered, too. ;-) (Yes, I get that it's before vs after the data theft. :) ) ) On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > Do you mean, snag the clear-text version of the user's files? If the user has

RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-23 Thread Ken Schaefer
em Admin Issues Subject: Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > Another option would be to trick the user into installing this > software, or trick the user into somehow giving away access to the > machine (aka these APTs we

Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > Another option would be to trick the user into installing > this software, or trick the user into somehow giving away > access to the machine (aka these APTs we keep hearing about) > and layering this on top. But if you can do that, why bot

RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Ken Schaefer
: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Saturday, 22 December 2012 7:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? So I'm hearing we shouldn't be concerned about a PGP-encrypted laptop *unless* it's hibernation file is unencrypted (rea

Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Kurt Buff
ord then? > > -Original Message- > From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:59 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? > > Its not hard to get a memory dump from a PC that i

RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread David Lum
Simple to get past the screensaver password then? -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? Its not hard to get a memory dump from a PC

RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Ziots, Edward
Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? So I'm hearing we shouldn't be concerned about a PGP-encrypted laptop *unless* it's hibernation file is un

RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread David Lum
if a target PC is turned off" >> If the hiberfil.sys is encrypted, how do they get to it? Dave -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? I

Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Jonathan Link
Sensationalist tech press is sensational? On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Ben Scott wrote: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Andrew S. Baker > wrote: > > You could unlock my safe if I gave you the keys as well, which is all > that is happening here. > > Even the bit about using the hibernati

Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Andrew S. Baker wrote: > You could unlock my safe if I gave you the keys as well, which is all that is > happening here. > Even the bit about using the hibernation file is not worthy of the headline > they provided... > It's not like they're *cracking* the encypt

Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Andrew S. Baker
time and effort the encryption will >> >> be cracked and data will be obtained. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Z >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + >> &

Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Jonathan Link
t; From: Ziots, Edward > > [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] > > Sent: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 > > 09:57:51 -0800 > > Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? > > > > > >

Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Steve Kradel
rd > [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] > To: NT System Admin Issues > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] > Sent: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 > 09:57:51 -0800 > Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? > > >> I would say off the record no, if you used popular encry

RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Matthew W. Ross
o:ezi...@lifespan.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:57:51 -0800 Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? > I would say off the record no, if you used popular encryption software > and a repeatable process, but wh

Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Steven Peck
ineer > > Lifespan Organization > > ezi...@lifespan.org > > ** ** > > *From:* Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] > *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2012 12:37 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? > >

RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Ziots, Edward
+, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this? Oh, great. I wonder what view CMS will take if a

RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Ziots, Edward
Yes and Pgpcrack also is another tool to crack PGP encryption. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin

RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Chinnery, Paul
Oh, great. I wonder what view CMS will take if a laptop is stolen\lost and it's encrypted. Will they still say it's a HIPAA violation? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this