RE: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Give Richie his notes back. -sc > -Original Message- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 6:04 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:59 PM, John Co

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:59 PM, John Cook wrote: > Ask SC, somebody died and made him hall monitor. ♬ Smokin' in the boys room... ♬ -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~ --- To manage subscr

RE: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Steven M. Caesare
riday, November 19, 2010 5:59 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena > > Ask SC, somebody died and made him hall monitor. > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > - Original Message -

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Don Ely
sues > Sent: Fri Nov 19 17:55:36 2010 > Subject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena > > Don't you mean you're required to buy two? > > On Friday, November 19, 2010, John Cook wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread John Cook
Ask SC, somebody died and made him hall monitor. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Fri Nov 19 17:55:36 2010 Subject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena Don't you mean y

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Jonathan Link
gt; > > > From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 2:59 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena > > DLINK recently bought out iStor, which is essentially Tier2 or 3 enterprise > stuff.   Good pr

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Jonathan Link
gt; 5950 NW 1st Place > Gainesville, Fl 32607 > Cell (352) 215-6944 > MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 > > > From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 4:19 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: First Steps

RE: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread John Cook
, November 19, 2010 4:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena Pillar owned by Larry Ellison... ;o) On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM, John Cook mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote: I've not heard anyone mention Pillar Systems SANs. I saw a pretty impre

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Don Ely
for Strong Families > > -- > *From*: Sean Martin > *To*: NT System Admin Issues > *Sent*: Fri Nov 19 13:30:14 2010 > > *Subject*: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena > > I believe EQL has been providing storage tiering for a little awhile now. > We didn&#x

RE: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread John Aldrich
Good to know it's not some "prosumer" piece of junk. ;-) Thanks, Andrew! From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 2:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena DLINK recently bought out iStor, which is es

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Andrew S. Baker
e-user equipment. > > > > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 1:36 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena > > I've not heard anyone mention Pillar Systems SANs. I saw a pretty > impr

RE: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread John Aldrich
r 19, 2010 1:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena I've not heard anyone mention Pillar Systems SANs. I saw a pretty impressive demo by them several months back. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread John Cook
bject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena I believe EQL has been providing storage tiering for a little awhile now. We didn't get into that level of testing during our proof of concept, but the consultant assisting with us with our VMWare POC had nothing but great things to say about the

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Sean Martin
I believe EQL has been providing storage tiering for a little awhile now. We didn't get into that level of testing during our proof of concept, but the consultant assisting with us with our VMWare POC had nothing but great things to say about the capability. I think the recent addition to that feat

RE: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Garcia-Moran, Carlos
al Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Sean Martin wrote: > EQL on the other hand inclues a lot of built-in functionality like

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Sean Martin wrote: > EQL on the other hand inclues a lot of built-in functionality like > snapshots, array-to-array replications, etc. without charging more. I hear > they will soon (or maybe have already) provide CIFS/NFS but that will > require an additional arr

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Andrew S. Baker
upport >> etc, future expandability, etc. >> >> >> >> We have about 24 TB of data but a lot of it is online archive data that we >> must keep online. >> >> >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Jonathan Link
of data but a lot of it is online archive data that we > must keep online. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:58 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issu

RE: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Paul Hutchings
xpensive cabinets/shelves just to store 5 year old stuff that people still access occasionally. From: jwalt...@specservices.com [mailto:jwalt...@specservices.com] Sent: 19 November 2010 16:06 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: First Steps into the SAN Arena Thanks Sean and everyone el

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Sean Martin
I definitely like the US tech support, the 4 hours onsite support > etc, future expandability, etc. > > > > We have about 24 TB of data but a lot of it is online archive data that we > must keep online. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > &

RE: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread jwalters
rs onsite support etc, future expandability, etc. We have about 24 TB of data but a lot of it is online archive data that we must keep online. Jim From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: First S

RE: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Paul Hutchings
November 2010 15:02 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena +1 for Equalogics. They just work and they are constantly adding new features and tighter integrations with VMware and Hyper V. If you're looking at the NS line I would definitely talk to Dell

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Chad Leeper
+1 for Equalogics. They just work and they are constantly adding new features and tighter integrations with VMware and Hyper V. If you're looking at the NS line I would definitely talk to Dell about Equalogics. Are you planning on utilizing the CIFS or NFS features? If not, look at the CX4 lin

RE: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Garcia-Moran, Carlos
performance has been fantastic and the cost was only slightly higher than the renewal for Maintenance of the two EMC's was going to be. From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-19 Thread Anders Blomgren
And EqualLogic is where we headed when it was time to set up a vsphere cluster. Getting another celerra or adding shelves to the current one didnt make sense. -Anders Sent from my iPhone On 19 nov 2010, at 01:47, Jonathan Link wrote: Yes, I got an EMC pitch before I stepped into an EqualLogic

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-18 Thread Jonathan Link
Yes, I got an EMC pitch before I stepped into an EqualLogic. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Anders Blomgren wrote: > That behind that admitedly much improved gui the celerra is a complex > beast. > > That quite a few more complex system changes require an EMC Technitian. > > That being said, I

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-18 Thread Kramer, Jack
What are your storage requirements? We were able to evade the SAN question entirely with very large NAS that supports block synchronization between two (or more) nodes - talking 24-48TB per node. Jack Kramer Computer Systems Specialist University Relations, Michigan State University w: 517-8

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-18 Thread Sean Martin
If you're looking at the NS line I would definitely talk to Dell about Equalogics. Are you planning on utilizing the CIFS or NFS features? If not, look at the CX4 line as they support iSCSI and Fiber Channel. I agree with Anders that the Celerra interface is not the most intuitive and is overly co

Re: First Steps into the SAN Arena

2010-11-18 Thread Anders Blomgren
That behind that admitedly much improved gui the celerra is a complex beast. That quite a few more complex system changes require an EMC Technitian. That being said, I do like our Celerra. And probably wont get another one when our current one needs replacing. The celerra is clariion storage and