RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-29 Thread pdw1914
entries). I've decided that this is a line in the sand situation. From: paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:50:56 + Are you sure that's what they're asking, and that they aren't simply asking

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-23 Thread pdw1914
'nattting' for two large healthcare vendors (whose clients also use the same private IP scheme we use) but they gave me a address to nat my internal device to. From: br...@briandesmond.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:17:50

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-23 Thread pdw1914
Exactly, Ben. From: mailvor...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:50:03 -0400 Subject: Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: I’m rather lost now. How is doing this double NAT

Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: I'm not talking private WAN, I'm talking VPN. Using the public Internet to carry a secure tunnel for a private payload. That's basically private WAN... We're splitting hairs now, but hey, this is the Internet,

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-23 Thread John Hornbuckle
We had to do something like this for one of our products that's hosted externally. I created a VM just for this, and made it an RODC. I just somehow felt a little better doing that vs. a regular DC, although maybe that's a false sense of security. And of course, ACLs restricting access solely

Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-23 Thread Andrew S. Baker
There's no obligation for a WAN to use dedicated circuits...50% of the WANs of organizations that I've been associated with have used VPNs for connectivity. Cloud is definitely a very ambiguous term, and heavily co-opted by marketing, but I like the NIST definition, a summary of which can be

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-23 Thread Guyer, Don
Admin Issues Subject: Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP There's no obligation for a WAN to use dedicated circuits...50% of the WANs of organizations that I've been associated with have used VPNs for connectivity. Cloud is definitely a very ambiguous term, and heavily co-opted by marketing

Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-23 Thread Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2011 12:19 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP ** ** There's no obligation for a WAN to use dedicated circuits...50% of the WANs of organizations that I've been associated with have used VPNs

Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:57, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: We are getting a new product to report variances.  It is web-based but using LDAP to authenticate users.  The way it works is that a person can log a variance anonymously  but then directors can use their AD credentials to log in and

Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Richard Stovall
Out of curiosity, can you tell us the name of the product? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:57 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: We are getting a new product to report variances. It is web-based but using LDAP to authenticate users. The way it works is that a person can log a variance anonymously

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Al Lilianstrom
Is the new product cloud based or internal? If internal I can't see why you would need your DCs/LDAP servers to be available to the public internet. If cloud based just open up to the IP of the server in the cloud to allow authentication. And insist on LDAP over SSL. al -- Al

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Paul Hutchings
Are you sure that's what they're asking, and that they aren't simply asking to have ldap access from some external IP address range which you'd provide via an inbound firewall rule with an ACL and NAT so that only their specific IP addresses can authenticate? Not sure I'd be too comfortable

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Brian Desmond
This comes up every now and then. Before the various federation technologies became prevalent it was a lot more common, but now not so much. Generally what you do is publish the LDAPS or GC/S port with an ACL that restricts source IPs. If the app can't failover between a couple of names then

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread pdw1914
Quantros Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:18:53 -0400 Subject: Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP From: rich...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Out of curiosity, can you tell us the name of the product? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:57 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: We are getting a new

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread pdw1914
Sep 2011 13:22:21 -0500 Subject: RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP Is the “new product” cloud based or internal? If internal I can’t see why you would need your DCs/LDAP servers to be available to the public internet. If cloud based just open up to the IP of the server in the cloud to allow

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Brian Desmond
[mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP Cloud. They explain further on that they have a lot of clients, some of whom may use the same private IP so to prevent overlap (in their words) they want our

Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: I’m rather lost now. How is doing this double NAT going to help you in a typical cloud scenario? Usually you do this type of thing with a direct link to a business partner/supplier. You have an IP address on your

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Brian Desmond
, September 22, 2011 5:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: I'm rather lost now. How is doing this double NAT going to help you in a typical cloud scenario? Usually you do this type of thing

Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: You have an IP address on your private side that duplicates their private net, and you're connected to them via some kind of VPN or other secure router, so you do a one-to-one static NAT between your private net and

Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Jon Harris
Alarmist no not to me. I would tell them find or propose another way. I would look at a way maybe using a Linux machine that sync's (more or less) what they need and then maybe put that where it could be seen from the web. Others may have better ways to skin the cat. Jon On Thu, Sep 22, 2011

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Brian Desmond
   - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: You have an IP address on your

Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Steven Peck
] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: You have an IP address on your private side that duplicates their private net, and you're connected to them

Re: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: ... the provider gives you a VPN box to make the link ... This certainly didn't used to be called the cloud - this is classic service hosting. I usually consider cloud to require Internet connection between you and

RE: LDAP\DC with a public IP

2011-09-22 Thread Brian Desmond
That's basically private WAN... Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c   - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: LDAP\DC with a public