To: NT System Admin Issues
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Haha ... well, both actually ;o)
In the quoted statement however, I was referring to the attitude of the general
populace towards IT, in that they don't know what the hell any of us do but
figure we must be responsible anyway each time
ought to just be able to wave their magic wands and
make it happen with little investment of time or money.
John
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
I've found that attitudes vary
Yup .. I keep a spare wand in my drawer. It's beside the make is
secure button ...
a
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: 08 March 2011 11:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
My argument wasn't
killer...
Yup .. I keep a spare wand in my drawer. It's beside the make is secure
button ...
a
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: 08 March 2011 11:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
My
:38
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Morale killer...
My argument wasn’t so much that the business side doesn’t understand the
**value** of IT so much as they don’t understand IT itself, and what’s
required to keep IT systems running smoothly.
They love it when IT systems
It really sounds like she thinks you're just beavering away at behind
the scenes infrastructure work right now. Changing laptop encryption,
VPN, patching, etc. are just blah blah blah details in the background
to business users. Working on projects that change the business or
improve customer
I would argue that cross-business exposure and involvement is already a
necessity for sys admins and engineers who do not want to be mistaken for
mere commodities.
Used to be a manager thing, but no longer limited to that level. Welcome to
IT and business in the 21st century.
-ASB:
2011 13:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
I would argue that cross-business exposure and involvement is already a
necessity for sys admins and engineers who do not want to be mistaken for mere
commodities.
Used to be a manager thing, but no longer limited to that level
...
a
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*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 07 March 2011 13:18
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Morale killer...
I would argue that cross-business exposure and involvement is already a
necessity for sys admins and engineers who do not want to be mistaken
agree with that,
too, though. So either way, I think I'm agreeing with him.
John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 10:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale
was the original posting ...
a
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 March 2011 15:21
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
With the general business level ignorance of IT...
Let's just say that I disagree with this particular
.fl.us]
Sent: 07 March 2011 16:26
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
I wish you wouldn't leave it at that-I'm enjoying this discussion! :-)
If Alan is saying that IT folks tend to be somewhat ignorant of the
business side of things, I agree. Although I think he's instead
Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://dabcc.com/Webster http://dabcc.com/Webster
From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net]
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
I've been in the computer field for nearly 50 years. Before there were
certs, there was a general
Could I suggest you find out more about they are suggesting you do. What you
might think as broad scoped isn't in their minds. Then work with your boss to
see what opportunities you can be exposed to, to provide the necessary evidence
to get yourself promoted. This is assuming you want to keep
March 2011 7:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
I update my certifications periodically. However, I use them as a supplement
to experience and in the past, I and several friends have been in situations
where it came down to two candidates with similar experience but we
Did the promotion also include more money? The answer could be an excuse for
lack of funds.
Howeversee more broad scoped project proposals...sounds like she is
looking for things that, in her mind, have a more direct impact on the business
model. All the things you did make it easier for
The interesting catch-22 is that if you start proposing broad, strategic
proposals, you often get told that you don't understand the full picture,
and to just stick what what you were hired to do.
My advice to David is to vent (offsite) for a little, then suck it up and do
two things
:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
The interesting catch-22 is that if you start proposing broad, strategic
proposals, you often get told that you don't understand the full picture, and
to just stick what what you were hired to do.
My advice to David is to vent
Venting publicly on an email list that is archived on the web and indexed
by search engines, while using your real name and even your company's name
in your sig, could be a very unwise move. Just saying.
http://www.mail-archive.com/ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com/
- Original
The bigger issue for me is the use of the corporate address...
*ASB *(Find me online via About.Me http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio)
*Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...
*
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Jim McAtee j...@zolx.com wrote:
Venting publicly on an email list that
David,
These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when it's
acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to sound
like I'm trying to one up you or anything, but I find myself in a similar
predicament. I've been in the field almost as long as you, and
Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
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David,
These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when it's
acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to sound
like
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
An A+?!?! For a senior person?!? I'd run away. I've never had an A+ in
my 15 years nor do I have a current MCanything.
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From: Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
: * NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject: *Re: Morale killer...
David,
These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when
it's acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to
sound like I'm trying to one up you
@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject: *Re: Morale killer...
David,
These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when
it's acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to
sound like
-software.com
*Subject: *Re: Morale killer...
David,
These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when
it's acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to
sound like I'm trying to one up you or anything, but I find myself in a
similar predicament. I've
Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
Yeah, someone didn't think it through when those requirements were added to
existing employee's transcripts. An MCSE requirement also appeared, and the
description states the following:
The Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) credential
: *Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
*Date: *Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:47:28 -0900
*To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject: *Re: Morale killer...
David,
These types of scenarios can
Sorry David …
FWIW, at a previous employer one requirement to attain Sr SE was not a
technical qualification, but on how the SE could communicate with the LOBs,
and design/provide solutions for the business need based on discussions at
the strategic level. Lower level SEs were defined by
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From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
I have my original A+ (somewhere) from back when I did on site warranty work
for our
. In talking to friends, relatives and co-workers, the great
majority would quit their job if they won the lottery or inherited a
fortune. Nuff said!
Murray
_
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 2:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Morale killer
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From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net]
Subject: RE: Morale killer...
I've been in the computer field for nearly 50 years. Before there were
certs, there was a general shortage of computer people, not to mention
experienced people. Back then, I had friends
+1
Erik Goldoff
IT Consultant
Systems, Networks, Security
' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
I still have my MCSE lapel
-software.com
*Subject: *Re: Morale killer...
David,
These types of scenarios can definitely be frustrating. Especially when
it's acknowledged that you're qualified for the position. I don't mean to
sound like I'm trying to one up you or anything, but I find myself in a
similar predicament. I've
is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Morale killer...
I still have my MCSE lapel pin...
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families
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