Re: Time sync issues

2013-01-14 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:49 PM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Quick brainstorm requiredwhat's the most common issues you'd expect in a Windows/AD environment if some servers have incorrect time settings? Obviously AD replication and logging inconsistencies spring to mind...just

RE: Time sync issues

2013-01-14 Thread Merker, Michael R
. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync issues On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:49 PM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Quick brainstorm requiredwhat's the most common issues you'd

RE: Time sync issues

2013-01-14 Thread Webster
] Subject: RE: Time sync issues Kerberos authentication fails if time drifts too far off and you lose access to network resources, such as shares. The tolerance for time drift varies with server editions. I think Server 2003 had a 5 minute drift tolerance and I think Server 2008 has a 10

RE: Time sync issues

2013-01-14 Thread Merker, Michael R
] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync issues That is not a 100% accurate statement. http://blogs.technet.com/b/askds/archive/2012/08/24/friday-i-mean-saturday-mail-sack-very-wordy-edition.aspx •The semi-myth of Kerberos time skew Thanks

RE: Time sync

2013-01-09 Thread Ken Schaefer
as well, without having to over provision to start with. Cheers Ken From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2013 1:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync We use SCOM to monitor everything, and we have some homegrown stuff on top of that. So

RE: Time sync

2013-01-08 Thread Ken Cornetet
. Management can worry about the explosion of disk costs. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 11:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync Seriously? Are you an ITIL shop? Do you not have capacity management plans and systems/tools in place

RE: Time sync

2013-01-08 Thread Ken Schaefer
[mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2013 1:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync We use SCOM to monitor everything, and we have some homegrown stuff on top of that. So, we do monitor. However, what we saw in the early days of virtualization

RE: Time sync

2013-01-07 Thread Ken Cornetet
Lol, how many times do you need 64 vCPUs or 4TB of guest Ram versus needing to extend a disk? From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync Can ESX support 64 vCPUs or 4TB RAM per guest yet? Or 64

Re: Time sync

2013-01-07 Thread Michael Leone
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Ken Cornetet ken.corne...@kimball.com wrote: Lol, how many times do you need 64 vCPUs or 4TB of guest Ram versus needing to extend a disk? I run VMware ESXi 5.0, and I know I have had to extend a disk any number of times. And Win2008 makes extending the boot disk

RE: Time sync

2013-01-07 Thread Ken Cornetet
HyperV users aren't howling about this. -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Ken Cornetet ken.corne...@kimball.com wrote: Lol, how many

RE: Time sync

2013-01-07 Thread Michael B. Smith
] Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync We are running ESX 5. To conserve SAN storage, we provision virtuals with the bare minimum needed disk space because it is so easy to extend disks later (extend the VMDK in VMWare, extend in Windows, done

Re: Time sync

2013-01-07 Thread Andrew S. Baker
features like 4TB of guest RAM. And, I also wonder why HyperV users aren't howling about this. -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Ken

RE: Time sync

2013-01-07 Thread Ken Cornetet
days, and I ran into this problem a few times. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync Because the overhead associated with dynamic disks in Hyper-V v3

Re: Time sync

2013-01-07 Thread Michael Leone
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: You do know you can thin provision in both VMWare and HyperV, right? Thus, you can stipulate that a disk have a max size of 200GB, but if you're only using 50GB, it will only be 50GB in size. I never use think disks,

Re: Time sync

2013-01-07 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync Because the overhead associated with dynamic disks in Hyper-V v3 is in the very low single digits. We don't spend any time on this process, thin provisioning still works seamlessly, and we get on with our lives. :) -Original Message- From: Ken

RE: Time sync

2013-01-07 Thread Ken Cornetet
, even if you script it up. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync Yes, over subscribing can be an issue if you don't manage your capacity properly. It hasn't proved to be an issue in any

Re: Time sync

2013-01-07 Thread Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, January 07, 2013 12:08 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Time sync ** ** Yes, over subscribing can be an issue if you don't manage your capacity properly. ** ** It hasn't proved to be an issue in any of the environments where I have

RE: Time sync

2013-01-07 Thread Ken Schaefer
that VMWare doesn't have. That statement is patently untrue. That was the point I was trying to make. Cheers Ken From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync Lol, how many times do you need 64 vCPUs

RE: Time sync

2013-01-07 Thread Ken Schaefer
System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync How do you manage your capacity properly? I'm not being facetious - I really want to know since it looks like we are switching to HyperV. Microsoft's recommendation is to create thin disks for more than you ever think you need. Then, when creating the OS

Re: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Eric Wittersheim
We run the product from Meinberg. It works very well except on HV guests. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote: Greetings! ** ** I’m sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S’s reply yesterday pointing to

RE: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Ken Cornetet
System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync We run the product from Meinberg. It works very well except on HV guests. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I'm sure I and many others have asked

RE: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Here is how I do it. I use the standard domain structure and have the PDC emulator sync to a good outside source. But the one thing I added was a scheduled task on every server that runs twice a day to stop and start the time service. That has helped dramatically, I can't remember the last

Re: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Christopher Bodnar
How far is your drift? What it the tolerance for drift in the application? Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com

RE: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Chinnery, Paul
Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync We run the Meinberg NTP port as well. We will soon start migrating from VMWare (where the Meinberg NTP port works great) to HyperV. Care to elaborate on what you mean by except on HV guests? From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday

Re: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Steve Kradel
How much time skew are we talking about here? While MSFT will only support w32tm accuracy within 1-2 seconds, in practice I have found it to be stable within a tenth of a second or less, and would not feel compelled to look into very-high-accuracy NTP clients for regular non-scientific

RE: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Ziots, Edward
To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync Slightly OT, Ken, but why are you moving away from VM? Cost or something else that HyperV gives you that VM doesn't? Paul Chinnery Network Admin Memorial Medical Center 231.845.2319 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne

RE: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Richard McClary
-Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync How much time skew are we talking about here? While MSFT will only support w32tm accuracy within 1-2 seconds, in practice I

RE: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Free, Bob
...@zetetic.net] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync How much time skew are we talking about here? While MSFT will only support w32tm accuracy within 1-2 seconds, in practice I have found it to be stable within a tenth of a second or less, and would

RE: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Ken Cornetet
Subject: RE: Time sync I was thinking the same thing. Actually IMHO VM still does more than Hyper-V does... Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Friday

Re: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Eric Wittersheim
the Meinberg NTP port works great) to HyperV. Care to elaborate on what you mean by “except on HV guests”? ** ** *From:* Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2013 9:24 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Time sync ** ** We run

Re: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Steve Kradel
, it's not all that clear.) Thanks again -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync How much time skew are we talking about here? While MSFT will only support

Re: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Steven Peck
hours? (At first skimming, it's not all that clear.) Thanks again -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync How much time skew are we talking about here

Re: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Steven Peck
with the DC every 1-2 hours? (At first skimming, it's not all that clear.) Thanks again -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync How much time skew are we

RE: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Bourque Daniel
timesource offset more then 100msec, It generate an e-mail alert. De : Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Envoyé : 4 janvier 2013 16:25 À : NT System Admin Issues Objet : Re: Time sync Oh, I should mention the PBX gets time from the routers as well, etc. We

RE: Time sync

2013-01-04 Thread Ken Schaefer
. Hypervisors are almost commoditised, and will be within the next version or two. Cheers Ken From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Saturday, 5 January 2013 6:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync Cost. HyperV give something that VMWare doesn't? I laughed so hard I

RE: Time Sync to outside NTP server in NT4

2001-09-28 Thread Wong, Joe
w32time.exe is also available free from microsoft and handles NTP sources ... Joe -Original Message- From: Luberti, Carl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time Sync to outside NTP server in NT4 You'll need

RE: Time Sync to outside NTP server in NT4

2001-09-28 Thread Andrew Baker
W32Time See the following: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=TimeSync.TXT - ASB -Original Message- From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Time Sync to outside NTP server in NT4 I know I can

RE: Time Sync to outside NTP server in NT4

2001-09-28 Thread Sauer, Steve
Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time Sync to outside NTP server in NT4 W32Time See the following: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=TimeSync.TXT - ASB -Original Message

Re: Time Sync to outside NTP server in NT4

2001-09-28 Thread The Realist's Mail
I have a perl script that I run from sql executive as a job to sync time with bitsy.mit.edu Jim Want to unsub? Do that here: http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=unsub Need a good FAQ? Try this one first: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/