Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-15 Thread Cameron
Thanks very much Ben, Great explaination! Cheers, Cameron On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Ben Scott wrote: > [aggregate reply to multiple messages] > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Cameron wrote: > > IBM P520 - 2 LPARs - 1 - AIX 5.3, 2 - AIX 6.1 > > Need to backup approx 80GB (roughly 40

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-14 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Mathew Shember wrote: > Trying to figure out how unix backups turns into political economics..  Welcome to the Internet.  This is our road sign: http://mlkshk.com/r/31XF -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a reso

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-14 Thread Jonathan Link
I claim fault for this one. Apologies to the list. On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Mathew Shember wrote: > Trying to figure out how unix backups turns into political economics.. > > > -Original Message- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: We

RE: Unix Backups

2011-09-14 Thread Mathew Shember
Trying to figure out how unix backups turns into political economics.. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Unix Backups On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Kurt Buff

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-14 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Sigh... * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 14:45, Ben Scott wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > >> Um, whoever owns

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-14 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: >>> Um, whoever owns the guns owns the means of production. >> >>  You confuse ownership with control.  I expect you also confuse "can >> control" with "does control". > > What is ownership, if not control? And vice versa? http://dictionary.refer

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-14 Thread Jonathan Link
Seriously. WTF. Oy. And moving on. On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 14:45, Ben Scott wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > >> Um, whoever owns the guns owns the means of production. > > > > You confuse ownership with contr

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-14 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 14:45, Ben Scott wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: >> Um, whoever owns the guns owns the means of production. > >  You confuse ownership with control.  I expect you also confuse "can > control" with "does control". What is ownership, if not contro

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > Um, whoever owns the guns owns the means of production. You confuse ownership with control. I expect you also confuse "can control" with "does control". -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Kurt Buff
Um, whoever owns the guns owns the means of production. Mao was correct on that point. Kurt On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:26, Jonathan Link wrote: > Yes, technically that could be a dictatorship or any sort of despotic > government. > > In socialism the state own or control the means of production

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Jonathan Link
Yes, technically that could be a dictatorship or any sort of despotic government. In socialism the state own or control the means of production. They may or may not determine who owns the guns, too, but that is separate from the govenmental authority over enterprises. On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:2

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > Socialism requires that some folks have guns and that others can't. Incorrect. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~ --- To manage subscrip

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Kurt Buff
No, the only fail here is memory. It's hell getting old... Kurt On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 17:08, Jonathan Link wrote: > Perhaps it's an example of von Mises theories in action?  Free software > cannot continue to be free, since it is socialistic in nature.  It must > inevitably fail. > > On Mon,

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 16:59, Joseph L. Casale wrote: >>Amanda, now known as Zmanda, might fill your bill. > > Amanda is not "now known" as Zmanda. One is the Open Source project, the other > is the commercial offering based on it. Sorry - it's been quite a while since I looked a this stuff, and

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Ben Scott
[aggregate reply to multiple messages] On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Cameron wrote: > IBM P520 - 2 LPARs - 1 - AIX 5.3, 2 - AIX 6.1 > Need to backup approx 80GB (roughly 40GB per LPAR) > > I was using BE2010 to backup (to tape) my Windows boxes as well as the Unix > clients but I don't *have*

RE: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Not sure about AIX, but can you add a -v and then pipe the result to a text file? From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Unix Backups It's a combination of Pro Isam/Oracle databases and ou

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Joseph Heaton
So, how many support cases have you had to open on your AIX system, with Symantec? If licenses are perpetual, then just keep using the product that works for you, and hit the forums for support. I've had better response from the Symantec forums, than I have from support, it seems. >>> Cameron

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Cameron
It's a combination of Pro Isam/Oracle databases and our ERP application and a few other apps...however, I don't need to backup the Oracle databases themselves as there are cold backups being done every night and I can backup those. Am I reading correctly that with 'tar', if you wanted to exclude di

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Andrew S. Baker
LOL * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Ben Scott wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Jonathan Link > wrote: > > Sure. I understand, and in the process they create a socialistic > >

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Jonathan Link
So, what are you backing up on the AIX box? And what are you wanting to do? Tar to a windows shared folder which is then backed up by your BackupExec infrastructure could work. Don't know if that's sufficient for your needs, though. On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Cameron wrote: > *sigh*ap

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Cameron
*sigh*apologies all...it was a LONG daylet me try this again. Good morning all, Backup Exec 2010 no longer supports any version of AIX.sI need to find an alternative. IBM P520 - 2 LPARs - 1 - AIX 5.3, 2 - AIX 6.1 Need to backup approx 80GB (roughly 40GB per LPAR) I was using

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread justino garcia
LOL that a good one on VON mises, Ludwig would be happy.. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Jonathan Link wrote: > Perhaps it's an example of von Mises theories in action? Free software > cannot continue to be free, since it is socialistic in nature. It must > inevitably fail. > > > On Mon, Sep

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Jonathan Link
I KNOW! On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Ben Scott wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Jonathan Link > wrote: > > Sure. I understand, and in the process they create a socialistic > > environment to develop the product. :-) > > Yah, it's even worse than a bunch of techies sharing their

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-13 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Jonathan Link wrote: > Sure.  I understand, and in the process they create a socialistic > environment to develop the product. :-) Yah, it's even worse than a bunch of techies sharing their time and knowledge for free on a public mailing list. -- Ben ~ Finally

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-12 Thread Matthew W. Ross
As many others have mentioned, your email is lacking in useful detail. My personal favorite Linux/Unix backup software would be BackupPC. It is a highly unix scriptable Disk to Disk backup solution. Perhaps it will fill your needs. http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ --Matt Ross Ephrata School

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-12 Thread Jonathan Link
Perhaps it's an example of von Mises theories in action? Free software cannot continue to be free, since it is socialistic in nature. It must inevitably fail. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > >Amanda, now known as Zmanda, might fill your bill. > > Amanda is not "now k

RE: Unix Backups

2011-09-12 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>Amanda, now known as Zmanda, might fill your bill. Amanda is not "now known" as Zmanda. One is the Open Source project, the other is the commercial offering based on it. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Cameron wrote: > Now that Symantec doesn't support AIX, I need to come up with a good > alternative. Anyone care to share their experiences? Your email is almost completely devoid of information. (If you had omitted "AIX", it would have achieved a zen-like perf

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-12 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 14:17, Cameron wrote: > Good afternoon all, > Now that Symantec doesn't support AIX, I need to come up with a good > alternative. Anyone care to share their experiences? > > TIA! > Cameron Amanda, now known as Zmanda, might fill your bill. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoi

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-12 Thread Joseph Heaton
Symantec "what" doesn't support AIX? I just looked at the compatibility document for Netbackup, and AIX is supported as both client and server. 64 bit anyway... And, at a minimum, AIX 5.3 TL7 SP5, or higher, for Netbackup 7.x >>> Cameron 9/12/2011 2:17 PM >>> Good afternoon all, Now that S

Re: Unix Backups

2011-09-12 Thread Andrew S. Baker
More details, please. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Cameron wrote: > Good afternoon all, > Now that Symantec doesn't support AIX, I need to come up with a good > alternative. Anyone ca

Unix Backups

2011-09-12 Thread Cameron
Good afternoon all, Now that Symantec doesn't support AIX, I need to come up with a good alternative. Anyone care to share their experiences? TIA! Cameron ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~ --- To ma