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l.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says That was brilliant, lol :) From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs over

RE: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says

That was brilliant, lol :) From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says an overwhelming sense of smug? - Who'd you rather be, the Beatles o

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- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:02 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says > > How do know you haven't already been compromised by a 0day? > > Seriously - how do you know? > >

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The same way Mac users know they haven't been infected with a virus. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says How do know you haven'

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quot;don't have good processes and > procedures", at least not to me. It means that pursuing a well-rounded > defense in depth strategy is the proper course - as always. > > Regards, > > Michael B. Smith > Consultant and Exchange MVP > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > &

RE: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says

72.4 seems a little low. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says there's a point of reference here ... unless a zero day exploit is EXTREMELY aggressi

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onsultant and Exchange MVP ><http://theessentialexchange.com/>http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > >-----Original Message- >From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:19 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: Re: Zero-day b

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l Message- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:19 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says > > From the article: > > "We're not saying don't worry about zero-days. B

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Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Micros

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d Exchange MVP > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:19 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says > > From the a

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote: > I always travel with a towel and wire ties. If I have time to plan, I > also through in duct tape and WD-40. Duct tape and WD-40 are practically all you need to fix any mechanical problem. If it moves and shouldn't: Duct tape. It

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote: > If (as the article says) only one-tenth of one percent of issues are caused > by zero-days; then that's not even a blip on the radar. Heck, I'd guess that most exploits happen because users explicitly downloaded and installed the progra

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System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says *throw Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE

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*throw Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says I always travel with a

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To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says And dont forget a towel. -- Espi On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Richard Stovall mailto:rich...@gmail.com>> wrote: Heck, just the cover. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Jonathan Link mailto:jona

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sday, October 18, 2011 3:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says From the article: "We're not saying don't worry about zero-days. But they need to be put into context," said Jeff Jones, a director of security with Microsoft's Tr

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And dont forget a towel. -- Espi On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Richard Stovall wrote: > Heck, just the cover. > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Jonathan Link > wrote: > >> So, bascially, I could've learned the same thing from Hitchhiker's Guide >> to the Galaxy. >> >> >> On Tue, Oct

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It makes me feel naked. But I'm OK with it. -- Espi On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Ben Scott wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Michael B. Smith > wrote: > > Yeah, well, I think you should read the article before > > you completely discount what they said. :-P > > Microsoft sa

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Meh. What's the worse that could happen? ... Oh right, its my job to think about whats the worse that could happen! CRAP... -- Espi On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:18 AM, David Lum wrote: > Thoughts? > > http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220705/Zero_day_bugs_overrated_Micr

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>From the article: "We're not saying don't worry about zero-days. But they need to be put into context," said Jeff Jones, a director of security with Microsoft's Trustworthy Computing group. "For the person who has security as a day-to-day job, they need to worry about the things that are most pre

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The book starts out with an airplane disaster and a tawdry scene. At my age, I blushed. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says Ah. Not having read the book I

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; *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:10 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says > > ** ** > > You didn't read my words did you? > > Microsoft is sayi

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et you might be. Zero day's can be pretty effective in a spear phishing attack. So if you are someone that might be more of a target zero days become more of an issue. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject

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issue. > > > > *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:57 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says > > > > Sounds like it. >

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+1 good book! From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says If you read Russinovich's "Zero Day" book, you'll want to panic. Of course, since he

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y, October 18, 2011 1:11 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says > > ** ** > > So you are saying panic? If you are the target of a specially crafted > phishing attack just for you, you have a lot more problems then a specif

RE: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says

I don't believe I used the word panic or suggested it. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:sep...@gmail.com]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says So you are saying panic? If

RE: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says

If you read Russinovich's "Zero Day" book, you'll want to panic. Of course, since he works for Microsoft, maybe they'll want him to revise it. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re

Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says

pretty effective in a spear phishing attack. So if you are someone that > might be more of a target zero days become more of an issue. > > ** ** > > *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:57 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues

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57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says Sounds like it. To be honest, I believe that MS has a point. They aren't saying they are not important, they are saying to not panic. You need to asses the information for each one. Zero day threat - 1. RD

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Sounds like it. To be honest, I believe that MS has a point. They aren't saying they are not important, they are saying to not panic. You need to asses the information for each one. Zero day threat - 1. RDP will hit your system remotely and blow it up - you should probably do something about this o

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Heck, just the cover. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Jonathan Link wrote: > So, bascially, I could've learned the same thing from Hitchhiker's Guide to > the Galaxy. > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Andrew S. Baker wrote: > >> I think that the title of the article does not do that actua

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sues" To "NT System Admin Issues" Press this button if the "To" is a fax number. Enter in the fax number like 123-456-7890. cc Subject Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says I think that the title of the article does not do that actual article content jus

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So, bascially, I could've learned the same thing from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Andrew S. Baker wrote: > I think that the title of the article does not do that actual article > content justice. > > * * > > *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing

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I think that the title of the article does not do that actual article content justice. * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:18 AM, David Lum wrote: > Thoughts? > > http://www.computerworld.com/s/ar

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ialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote: > Yeah, well, I think you shoul

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote: > Yeah, well, I think you should read the article before > you completely discount what they said. :-P Microsoft says people feel powerless and vulnerable when zero-day vulnerabilities are discovered. Microsoft's conclusion is that peop

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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:18 AM, David Lum wrote: > Thoughts? > http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220705/Zero_day_bugs_overrated_Microsoft_says?taxonomyId=85 Service outages overrated, RIM says. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

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:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zero-day bugs overrated, Microsoft says On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:18 AM, David Lum wrote: > Thoughts? > http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9220705/Zero_day_bugs_overrated_Microsoft_says?taxonomyId=85 Service outages overrated, RI