On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Bruce Southey bsout...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Matthew Brett matthew.br...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
2011/12/5 Stéfan van der Walt ste...@sun.ac.za:
As for barriers to entry, improving the the nature of discourse on the
mailing
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Charles R Harris
charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the rule should be that *anyone* seriously interested in what is
happening in numpy development should be watching the pull requests.
It's good to encourage that, but in the end big changes should always
Travis Oliphant wrote:
My initial thoughts:
I don't have a horse in this race, but I do suggest people read Karl
Fogel's book before too much designing of governance structure:
http://producingoss.com/
(alas, it's not short, but it's a fairly easy read and you can get
convenient dead-tree or
I'm not sure I'm crazy about leaving final decision making for a
board. A board may be a good way of carefully considering the issues,
and it could make it's own recommendation (with a sufficient
majority). But in the end I think one person needs to decide (and that
decision may go against
On 12/05/2011 06:22 AM, Perry Greenfield wrote:
I'm not sure I'm crazy about leaving final decision making for a
board. A board may be a good way of carefully considering the issues,
and it could make it's own recommendation (with a sufficient
majority). But in the end I think one person needs
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Travis Oliphant teoliph...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi everyone,
There have been some wonderfully vigorous discussions over the past few
months that have made it clear that we need some clarity about how
decisions will be made in the NumPy community.
When we were a
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Mark Wiebe mwwi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Travis Oliphant teoliph...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi everyone,
There have been some wonderfully vigorous discussions over the
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Charles R Harris
charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, that's a tough one. Numpy development tends to attract folks with
spare time, i.e., students*, and those with an itch to scratch. Itched
scratched, degree obtained, they go back to their primary interest or
Hi,
2011/12/5 Stéfan van der Walt ste...@sun.ac.za:
As for barriers to entry, improving the the nature of discourse on the
mailing list (when it comes to thorny issues) would be good.
Technical barriers are not that hard to breach for our community;
setting the right social atmosphere is
On 12/4/2011 1:43 AM, Charles R Harris wrote:
I don't think there are 5 active developers, let alone 11.
With hard work you might scrape together two or three.
Having 5 or 11 people making decisions for the two or
three actually doing the work isn't going to go over well.
Very true! But you
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Alan G Isaac alan.is...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/4/2011 1:43 AM, Charles R Harris wrote:
I don't think there are 5 active developers, let alone 11.
With hard work you might scrape together two or three.
Having 5 or 11 people making decisions for the two or
Great points. My initial suggestion of 5-11 was more about current board size
rather than trying to fix it.
I agree that having someone represent from major downstream projects would be a
great thing.
-Travis
On Dec 4, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Alan G Isaac wrote:
On 12/4/2011 1:43 AM,
Hi everyone,
There have been some wonderfully vigorous discussions over the past few months
that have made it clear that we need some clarity about how decisions will be
made in the NumPy community.
When we were a smaller bunch of people it seemed easier to come to an agreement
and
Hi Travis,
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Travis Oliphant teoliph...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
There have been some wonderfully vigorous discussions over the past few
months that have made it clear that we need some clarity about how decisions
will be made in the NumPy community.
I like the idea of trying to reach consensus first. The only point of
having a board is to have someway to resolve issues should consensus not be
reachable. Believe me, I'm not that excited about a separate mailing list.
It would be great if we could resolve everything on a single
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Travis Oliphant teoliph...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi everyone,
There have been some wonderfully vigorous discussions over the past few
months that have made it clear that we need some clarity about how
decisions will be made in the NumPy community.
When we were a
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