Re: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-06 Thread Fred Baumgarten
I like Peter's posting and would like to add a few thoughts. Maybe I'm missing something, but the question that doesn't seem to be fully addressed is: What do we do about it? Keeping sightings off the listserves is one solution, but one that a lot of people, myself included, have difficulty with.

Re: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-06 Thread Gregory Fisher
Well said Fred and Peter.  -Original Message- From: Fred Baumgarten Sent: Feb 6, 2012 12:38 PM To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds I like Peter's posting and would like to add a few thoughts.  Maybe I'm missing somethin

Re: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-06 Thread Jim Osterlund
Fred speaks well, and, indeed, we need to gather all these thoughts, and, if nothing else, state clearly and succinctly what the problem is. To contribute to this, thinking there might be significant legal aspects to consider, I've placed inquiry with NYSDEC, thinking them the most likely

RE: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-06 Thread Mark Barriger
:58:02 -0500 > From: james...@optonline.net > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds > To: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu > > Fred speaks well, and, indeed, we need to gather all these thoughts, > and, if nothing else, state clearly and succinctly what the proble

Re: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-07 Thread Jim Osterlund
Response I got from NYSDEC echos that given to another who's posted here. It was basically advise to contact the appropriate ECO, but it included a discouraging addition; "Yes harassing wildlife is a violation of the ECL. Proving it and prosecuting it is another issue." So, we've heard ane

Re: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-07 Thread Nadine Scarpa
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Jim Osterlund wrote: "Capitalism is the American way, and I'm all for it. So let's consider a capitalistic approach to the problem. Let's boycott, and advocate boycotting to others, the sale of those photos. Let's point out to the editors of publications we see w

RE: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-07 Thread Patrick Santinello
13703...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Nadine Scarpa Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 3:40 PM To: Jim Osterlund Cc: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Jim Osterlund wrote: "Capitalism is the American way, and I

RE: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds

2012-02-06 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
Re: [nysbirds-l] ethics, photographers, knee-jerks, op-eds Fred speaks well, and, indeed, we need to gather all these thoughts, and, if nothing else, state clearly and succinctly what the problem is. To contribute to this, thinking there might be significant legal aspects to consider, I've