Re: [OAUTH-WG] Security of user agent clients (WAS: End user authresponse code-and-token's scope parameter)

2010-07-08 Thread Lukas Rosenstock
2010/7/8 Michael D Adams m...@automattic.com: If an implementor needs cross domain functionality, there's a new, safer technology that allows both ends to whitelist who they talk to. Cross-document messaging http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/comms.html#crossDocumentMessages I'm not familiar with

Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion profile changes

2010-07-08 Thread Kris Selden
The refresh token is key to separating concerns of the protected resource from the auth server. I think this is succinctly explained the original rationale (refresh token = refresh secret): http://wiki.oauth.net/ScalableOAuth#Appendix On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:51 AM, Laurens Van Houtven wrote:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion profile changes

2010-07-08 Thread Justin Richer
Would it help if the client_ stuff were dropped from the example in the assertion flow? I'm in favor of it being allowed, but if the general use case is going to be without it then the example should reflect that and cut down on the confusion. -- Justin On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 18:01 -0400, Brian

Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion profile changes

2010-07-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Already is. http://github.com/theRazorBlade/draft-ietf-oauth/raw/3e9a1e67807b7bbfe79ca4045a44b613ef45c990/draft-ietf-oauth-v2.txt EHL On 7/8/10 8:21 AM, Justin Richer jric...@mitre.org wrote: Would it help if the client_ stuff were dropped from the example in the assertion flow? I'm in favor

[OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread David Recordon
I'm honestly trying to decide myself and a few other people are in similar situations. Thus a poll: A) Yes, I'm going to be in Maastricht B) Maybe, depends on the number of OAuth WG members going C) Maybe, depends on some other reason D) No If you're missing context, in a few weeks it is the IETF

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread David Recordon
B On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:29 AM, David Recordon record...@gmail.com wrote: I'm honestly trying to decide myself and a few other people are in similar situations. Thus a poll: A) Yes, I'm going to be in Maastricht B) Maybe, depends on the number of OAuth WG members going C) Maybe, depends

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Chuck Mortimore
D On Thursday, July 8, 2010, David Recordon record...@gmail.com wrote: B On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:29 AM, David Recordon record...@gmail.com wrote: I'm honestly trying to decide myself and a few other people are in similar situations. Thus a poll:A) Yes, I'm going to be in MaastrichtB)

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
A) Yes, I'm going to be in Maastricht If you're missing context, in a few weeks it is the IETF meeting in Maastricht (http://www.ietf.org/meeting/78/). The OAuth WG has a meeting scheduled all afternoon Tuesday the 27th. And don't forget about several other sessions that might be of interest

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
D. No. But I am looking forward to a long list of feedback for -10 and will do my best to attend virtually. EHL On 7/8/10 9:29 AM, David Recordon record...@gmail.com wrote: I'm honestly trying to decide myself and a few other people are in similar situations. Thus a poll: A) Yes, I'm going

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Justin Richer
D On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 12:29 -0400, David Recordon wrote: I'm honestly trying to decide myself and a few other people are in similar situations. Thus a poll: A) Yes, I'm going to be in Maastricht B) Maybe, depends on the number of OAuth WG members going C) Maybe, depends on some other

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
A Am 08.07.2010 um 18:29 schrieb David Recordon record...@gmail.com: I'm honestly trying to decide myself and a few other people are in similar situations. Thus a poll: A) Yes, I'm going to be in Maastricht B) Maybe, depends on the number of OAuth WG members going C) Maybe, depends on

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Blaine Cook
A, BUT I will be unable to attend Monday-Wednesday. I'll be around Thursday / Friday to work on issues and so forth if others will be there, too. b. On 8 July 2010 17:43, Justin Richer jric...@mitre.org wrote: D On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 12:29 -0400, David Recordon wrote: I'm honestly trying to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Nat Sakimura
B. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Blaine Cook rom...@gmail.com wrote: A, BUT I will be unable to attend Monday-Wednesday. I'll be around Thursday / Friday to work on issues and so forth if others will be there, too. b. On 8 July 2010 17:43, Justin Richer jric...@mitre.org wrote: D On

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Keenan, Bill
D On Jul 8, 2010, at 9:29 AM, David Recordon wrote: I'm honestly trying to decide myself and a few other people are in similar situations. Thus a poll: A) Yes, I'm going to be in Maastricht B) Maybe, depends on the number of OAuth WG members going C) Maybe, depends on some other reason D) No

[OAUTH-WG] The meaning of scope

2010-07-08 Thread Yaron Goland
Today the definition of scope is vague. But I have seen mails on this list (such as Lukas Rosenstock's post http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg03560.html which is just one example) that assert that scope represents the permissions that a client is requesting. When we use

Re: [OAUTH-WG] The meaning of scope

2010-07-08 Thread William Mills
Leaving it loosely defined is good in my opinion. The way I see scope is as a way to limit the power of a token. Examples of this might be mail to limit to only accessing e-mail, or read-only for something like a calendar sync application pulling events out of an online calendar. My mental

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Versioning

2010-07-08 Thread Marius Scurtescu
The bridge flow was meant to be used in a mixed OAuth 1 and OAuth 2 environment, it allows the consumer to obtain a token using signatures and then access protected resources with no signatures. Now that signatures are re-introduced in OAuth 2 I don't think there is a need for such an approach.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Marius Scurtescu
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Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion profile changes

2010-07-08 Thread Brian Eaton
OK, I *think* I understand your use-case... Just to be clear, even after your internal discussions, you don't see a need for a client secret in this flow? Our SAML endpoints encode the tenant in the URL like so: https://www.google.com/accounts/tenant/acs But I'd have no problem with supporting

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Brian Eaton
D. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:29 AM, David Recordon record...@gmail.com wrote: I'm honestly trying to decide myself and a few other people are in similar situations. Thus a poll: A) Yes, I'm going to be in Maastricht B) Maybe, depends on the number of OAuth WG members going C) Maybe, depends

Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion profile changes

2010-07-08 Thread Yaron Goland
Here is what I think happened. In OAuth WRAP section 5.2.3 the wrap_assertion and wrap_assertion_format arguments were used to allow clients to authenticate themselves to token endpoints in two legged OAuth scenarios. In OAuth 2.0 two legged OAuth as a separate definition was removed and

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Yaron Goland
D From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of David Recordon Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:29 AM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht? I'm honestly trying to decide myself and a few other people are in similar situations. Thus a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion profile changes

2010-07-08 Thread Brian Eaton
And I am now seriously, seriously confused about your use case. Why do you need refresh tokens? Can you give more details? On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Yaron Goland yar...@microsoft.com wrote: Here is what I think happened. In OAuth WRAP section 5.2.3 the wrap_assertion and

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Laurens Van Houtven
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[OAUTH-WG] In dire need of the device flow

2010-07-08 Thread Arnout J. Kuiper
Hi, Long story short, a while ago we (the company I work for) created our own protocols, which after investigation, matched the device flow in the earlier versions of the OAuth2 spec exactly. I'm in favor of open standards, so I would like to conform to the OAuth2 specification, if

Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion profile changes

2010-07-08 Thread Chuck Mortimore
On 7/8/10 12:32 PM, Yaron Goland yar...@microsoft.com wrote: Here is what I think happened. In OAuth WRAP section 5.2.3 the wrap_assertion and wrap_assertion_format arguments were used to allow clients to authenticate themselves to token endpoints in two legged OAuth scenarios. In OAuth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] assertion profile changes

2010-07-08 Thread Brian Eaton
Nice summary, thanks Brian! I think there is a third issue as well, i.e. what the use case for client_id actually is. I think Chuck's use case has client_id used to disambiguate the purpose of the SAML assertion. We have a similar use case, both for SAML assertions and three-legged OAuth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Manger, James H
D (No, I will not be in Maastricht) -- James Manger From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of David Recordon Sent: Friday, 9 July 2010 2:29 AM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht? I'm honestly trying to decide myself and a few