Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-campbell-oauth-saml-01

2011-01-04 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Agreed. I'll poke the chairs about accepting this as a WG item. :) Peter On 12/14/10 6:26 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > Prepare a new draft if needed and submit it with draft-ietf-oauth- > prefix. One of the chairs will need to approve it and it will be > published. I think we have wide conse

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-campbell-oauth-saml-01

2011-01-04 Thread Brian Campbell
Thanks Peter. I did update the draft and submit it with a draft-ietf-oauth- prefix. The I-D submission summary page for it is at https://datatracker.ietf.org/idst/status.cgi?submission_id=28905 On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > > Agreed. > > I'll poke the chairs about

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-campbell-oauth-saml-01

2011-01-04 Thread Blaine Cook
Accepted into the tracker. Thanks, Brian! b. On 4 January 2011 08:26, Brian Campbell wrote: > Thanks Peter.  I did update the draft and submit it with a > draft-ietf-oauth- prefix. The I-D submission summary page for it is at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/idst/status.cgi?submission_id=28905 > >

[OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer-00.txt

2011-01-04 Thread Internet-Drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Open Authentication Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Grant Type Profile for OAuth 2.0 Author(s) : B. Campbell, C.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS is needed for redirecting back to the client

2011-01-04 Thread Francisco Corella
Torsten, > you made a good point. However, the question is if this > belongs into the OAuth scope since this a general attack on > a web app's session management. I gave two variants of the attack.  I agree that the first variant "looks like" an attack against session management, but the second v

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS is needed for redirecting back to the client

2011-01-04 Thread Marius Scurtescu
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Francisco Corella wrote: > > We need a protocol that does both authentication and > authorization.  We can take OAuth and adapt it for > authentication, or take OpenID and adapt it for > authorization, or combine OpenID and OAuth (great solution > for people who lov

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS is needed for redirecting back to the client

2011-01-04 Thread torsten
What is the status of openid connect and what organisation ist standardizing it? Gesendet mit BlackBerry® Webmail von Telekom Deutschland -Original Message- From: Marius Scurtescu Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:37:28 To: Cc: ; ; Karen P. Lewison Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS is needed for re

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS is needed for redirecting back to the client

2011-01-04 Thread Justin Richer
> > We need a protocol that does both authentication and > > authorization. We can take OAuth and adapt it for > > authentication, or take OpenID and adapt it for > > authorization, or combine OpenID and OAuth (great solution > > for people who love complexity) or... take the best ideas > > from O

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS is needed for redirecting back to the client

2011-01-04 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Francisco, the attack you described sounds very similar to session fixation attacks. TLS (more specifically server authentication) is one way to cope with spoofing in general (supposed the client has a reasonably CA policy). So it should do in this case, too. Validation of the redirect_uri a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] unregistered applications

2011-01-04 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Francisco, just to make sure I understood your paper correctly: even native clients are required to have a backend server component, which receives the authorization results and makes it available to the native client? regards, Torsten. Hi all, OAuth provides only weak security when used wi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Native Client Extension

2011-01-04 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
+1 I have asked myself all the time why "oob" disappeared in OAuth 2.0? Does Google use this feature? regards, Torsten. Am 29.12.2010 23:53, schrieb Marius Scurtescu: I would like to propose an OAuth 2 extension that helps native clients close the loop after the approval page. The extension d

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Native Client Extension

2011-01-04 Thread Marius Scurtescu
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > +1 > > I have asked myself all the time why "oob" disappeared in OAuth 2.0? Does > Google use this feature? Yes, we are planning to support this, exactly as described in the extension. Marius ___

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS is needed for redirecting back to the client

2011-01-04 Thread Francisco Corella
--- On Tue, 1/4/11, Marius Scurtescu wrote: > > We need a protocol that does both authentication and > > authorization.  We can take OAuth and adapt it for > > authentication, or take OpenID and adapt it for > > authorization, or combine OpenID and OAuth (great solution > > for people who love com

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS is needed for redirecting back to the client

2011-01-04 Thread Francisco Corella
--- On Tue, 1/4/11, Justin Richer wrote: > > > We need a protocol that does both authentication and > > > authorization.  We can take OAuth and adapt it for > > > authentication, or take OpenID and adapt it for > > > authorization, or combine OpenID and OAuth (great > > > solution > > > for people

Re: [OAUTH-WG] unregistered applications

2011-01-04 Thread Francisco Corella
--- On Tue, 1/4/11, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > just to make sure I understood your paper correctly: even > native clients are required to have a backend server > component, which receives the authorization results and > makes it available to the native client? Yes, a very simple one that respon

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS is needed for redirecting back to the client

2011-01-04 Thread Francisco Corella
--- On Tue, 1/4/11, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > the attack you described sounds very similar to session > fixation attacks. TLS (more specifically server > authentication) is one way to cope with spoofing in general > (supposed the client has a reasonably CA policy). So it > should do in this cas

[OAUTH-WG] JSON Web Token (JWT) draft -01

2011-01-04 Thread Mike Jones
Draft -01 of the JSON Web Token (JWT) specification is now available. This version incorporates the consensus decisions reached at the Internet Identity Workshop. The remaining open issues and to-do items are documented in Section

Re: [OAUTH-WG] unregistered applications

2011-01-04 Thread torsten
These also means the availabilty of the native app on a device depends on the availabilty of this backend service. I don't know whether the average store website has a reasonable availability. Regards, Torsten. Gesendet mit BlackBerry® Webmail von Telekom Deutschland -Original Message--

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS is needed for redirecting back to the client

2011-01-04 Thread torsten
The client could just add another random string with every authorization request. Regards, Torsten. Gesendet mit BlackBerry® Webmail von Telekom Deutschland -Original Message- From: Francisco Corella Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:26:42 To: Torsten Lodderstedt Reply-To: fcore...@pomcor.c

Re: [OAUTH-WG] unregistered applications

2011-01-04 Thread torsten
Another question: how does the server validate the identity/authenticity of the client? In other words, what does a malicious app prevent from using the URL and server of another native app? Regards, Torsten. Gesendet mit BlackBerry® Webmail von Telekom Deutschland -Original Message-