Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: issues with token age element - MAC token

2011-05-30 Thread Skylar Woodward
But see, now you are specializing the use of MAC token even more - now it's becoming a service mainly for user-agents on home desktops? This is further for the original goal of making MAC as flexible is possible. In this case you should change the spec name to MAC_TOKEN_FOR_BROWSER_COOKIE_REPLA

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: issues with token age element - MAC token

2011-05-30 Thread Adam Barth
I can't speak for Mozilla, but I can tell you that many folks don't have synchronized clocks, for a wide variety of reasons. I guess I don't really understand why you view age as problematic. You reference "fragility of using time-since-credentials-issued" but you don't say what exactly is fragil

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: issues with token age element - MAC token

2011-05-30 Thread Skylar Woodward
I don't think you read my first message on the topic (or I wrote too much). Age is fragile because if the clock changes between issue_date and the time of submission, it will fail. We know many people don't have synchronized clocks, but using age only solves this problem if two assumptions hold