[OAUTH-WG] IPR Disclosure: Certicom Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-06

2013-02-19 Thread IETF Secretariat
Dear Michael Jones, John Bradley, Nat Sakimura: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "JSON Web Token (JWT)" (draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on 2013-02-19 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Discl

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Mandatory to implement

2013-02-19 Thread John Bradley
Sorry I did not intend to imply that what Barry is asking for is contradictory to MTI, only that it is different enough that it may require more than MTI of the existing features. As stated in the second line of the message. I think we need to get down to discussing specific changes. John B. O

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Mandatory to implement

2013-02-19 Thread Mike Jones
All of this discussion is occurring at a pretty abstract level. I hope we can soon make it concrete, because then it would be actionable. Do any of you who felt that changes might be needed to the Assertions spec or related specs have specific textual changes to propose to any of the specs, wh

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Mandatory to implement

2013-02-19 Thread Barry Leiba
> I can tell you that I don't think Barry and I are asking for > contradictory things. They are different, but not contradictory, > and have the same goal (interop). I believe Barry would agree > with that. > > Saying that field X is MTI can be entirely consistent with > defining a protocol that al

Re: [OAUTH-WG] JWT grant_type and client_id

2013-02-19 Thread John Bradley
At the moment no, The HoK work is ongoing. If you are talking about using an assertion as a authorization grant the subject should be the resource owner or some proxy for that. In Connect that would be the user_id not the client_id. We have added Authorized party "azp" to connect id_tokens

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Mandatory to implement

2013-02-19 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 02/19/2013 02:58 PM, John Bradley wrote: > Yes but that contradicts what Barry is appearing to ask for which is run time > interoperability, by profile or configuration. I can tell you that I don't think Barry and I are asking for contradictory things. They are different, but not contradicto

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Mandatory to implement (was: oauth assertions plan)

2013-02-19 Thread John Bradley
Yes but that contradicts what Barry is appearing to ask for which is run time interoperability, by profile or configuration. While having code available in libraries is generally a good thing, I agree. That is likely not going to address all of Barry's issues. A number of us recommended that A

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Using SAML2 Bearer for the authentication

2013-02-19 Thread Brian Campbell
The scope of assertion based client authentication is only in OAuth and only for the client calling the AS's token endpoint. Defining a general HTTP auth scheme for assertions would have a much broader scope and be much more difficult to standardize. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Sergey Beryoz

Re: [OAUTH-WG] JWT grant_type and client_id

2013-02-19 Thread Brian Campbell
Yeah, in general the client identification/authentication is independent from the grant being presented. There may be policy (maybe unidentified clients aren't allowed) or other protocol details (like some kind of HoK bound to the client, though that doesn't exist yet) that dictate more requirement

[OAUTH-WG] Using SAML2 Bearer for the authentication

2013-02-19 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
Hi, Assertions like SAML2 Bearer can be used for authenticating the client. Why a dedicated Authorization scheme can not be introduced, instead of or in addition to "client_assertion" & "client_assertion_type" parameters ? IMHO, the following Authorization: SAML "base64url-encoded assertion"