Re: [OAUTH-WG] [apps-discuss] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)

2012-04-17 Thread Blaine Cook
That's a tricky question - maybe one google can help answer? There are a bunch of projects using webfinger, including status.net, ostatus in general, diaspora, unhosted, freedombox(?), and I'm sure others, but I have no idea how that translates into actual users or profiles. Gmail, aol, and yahoo

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)

2012-04-13 Thread Blaine Cook
On 13 April 2012 12:18, Mike Jones michael.jo...@microsoft.com wrote: Hi Blaine. I must admit, I’m pretty surprised by the tone of your reply. I’ll say up front that I have absolutely no problem with anyone disagreeing with me on a technical or tactical basis. If you think I’m wrong, have

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)

2012-04-12 Thread Blaine Cook
On 12 April 2012 17:51, Mike Jones michael.jo...@microsoft.com wrote: Thanks for asking these questions Hannes. I'll first provide a brief feature comparison of Simple Web Discovery and WebFinger and then answer your questions. FEATURE COMPARISON RESULT GRANULARITY AND PRIVACY

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth WG Re-Chartering

2012-03-19 Thread Blaine Cook
On 15 March 2012 17:31, Zeltsan, Zachary (Zachary) zachary.zelt...@alcatel-lucent.com wrote: ...  Considering OpenID Connect as a motivating use case for OAuth, SWD is the one spec that would then be missing for this OAuth use case. I worry that bringing OpenID Connect into OAuth (rather than

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth WG Re-Chartering

2012-03-15 Thread Blaine Cook
On 14 March 2012 20:21, Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net wrote: So, here is a proposal: [Editor's Note: New work for the group. 5 items maximum! ] Aug. 2012    Submit 'Token Revocation' to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard Nov. 2012    Submit 'JSON Web Token

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.0 and Access Control Lists (ACL)

2011-12-18 Thread Blaine Cook
On 18 December 2011 17:22, Doug Tangren d.tang...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Melvin Carvalho melvincarva...@gmail.com wrote: Is this kind of flow possibly with OAuth 2.0, and if so whose responsibility is it to maintain the list of agents than can access the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Mandatory-to-implement token type

2011-12-12 Thread Blaine Cook
On 11 December 2011 11:30, Leif Johansson le...@mnt.se wrote: 5 dec 2011 kl. 00:34 skrev Blaine Cook rom...@gmail.com: Oauth 1.0a mac and 2.0 mac are not the same thing. Yours is an argument for backwards compat I think. The syntax is different / better, the spec is cleaner

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Mandatory-to-implement token type

2011-12-04 Thread Blaine Cook
On 4 December 2011 02:26, Mike Jones michael.jo...@microsoft.com wrote: I strongly object to a mandatory-to-implement clause for the MAC scheme.   They are unnecessary and market forces have shown that implementers do not want or need this kind of an authentication scheme. I'd say that

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Mandatory-to-implement token type

2011-12-02 Thread Blaine Cook
On 2 December 2011 03:20, Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org wrote: Stephen is thinking that code will be reused.  Perhaps there'll be a limited number of coded toolkits, and their code will be used to implement various authorization servers, etc.  That's the way a lot of Internet code is

Re: [OAUTH-WG] MAC: Age in nonce

2011-11-21 Thread Blaine Cook
+1. This is good. On 19 November 2011 16:41, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: We had a long discussion about what to use for the numerical component of the nonce string. I would like to suggest we use:    nonce REQUIRED.  A unique string generated by the client to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Auth Code Swap Attack

2011-08-15 Thread Blaine Cook
From my chair-seat, Barry's interpretation matches mine. Having carefully reviewed Eran's revised text vis-a-vis the proposal from Anthony et al., it seems like the concerns are addressed without forcing the use of any specific mechanism to maintain state, which is commensurate with the approach

[OAUTH-WG] Revised Charter

2011-04-27 Thread Blaine Cook
Hi all, Now that the Easter holiday is over, please review the following revised OAuth charter and provide feedback by May 5th (one week from today). Thanks! Description of Working Group The Open Web Authentication (OAuth) protocol allows a user to grant a third-party Web site or application

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-campbell-oauth-saml-01

2011-01-04 Thread Blaine Cook
Accepted into the tracker. Thanks, Brian! b. On 4 January 2011 08:26, Brian Campbell bcampb...@pingidentity.com wrote: Thanks Peter.  I did update the draft and submit it with a draft-ietf-oauth- prefix. The I-D submission summary page for it is at

[OAUTH-WG] Call for Consensus on Document Split

2010-10-13 Thread Blaine Cook
Over the past few weeks, the working group debated the issues around the introduction of signatures and the structure of the specification. The working group seems to endorse the proposal to split the current specification into two parts: one including section 5 (bearer token) and the other

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth vs OAuth2 in Authorization header

2010-07-15 Thread Blaine Cook
On 15 July 2010 15:59, Justin Richer jric...@mitre.org wrote: +1 on OAuth2 header, and I also want to see oauth2_token in URI and form parameter methods. 1.0 clients will talk to systems that support both oauth2 and oauth1 simultaneously. Most likely on the same PR endpoints as well. Since

Re: [OAUTH-WG] user-agent flow needs a rewrite

2010-07-13 Thread Blaine Cook
I don't claim to fully grok what the current state of the various proposals are regarding the user agent flow, but fundamentally, shouldn't we be aiming to replicate what Twitter and Facebook are already doing? We've already moved towards JSON as a standard format, why not go all the way and

Re: [OAUTH-WG] shared symmetric secret

2010-07-13 Thread Blaine Cook
+1 on like a password, or something similar-and-meaningful because that's exactly how it's being used here. Pre-shared key, shared secret, etc, would be fine. Keep in mind that authentication *will be done* using the bearer token, and the bearer token alone. An OAuth token is unlike capabilities

Re: [OAUTH-WG] POLL: Are you going to Maastricht?

2010-07-08 Thread Blaine Cook
A, BUT I will be unable to attend Monday-Wednesday. I'll be around Thursday / Friday to work on issues and so forth if others will be there, too. b. On 8 July 2010 17:43, Justin Richer jric...@mitre.org wrote: D On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 12:29 -0400, David Recordon wrote: I'm honestly trying to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Scope :: Was: Extensibility for OAuth?

2010-06-25 Thread Blaine Cook
I agree with Dick that the scope should remain out of scope for OAuth. ;-) Having a shared parameter here gives the illusion of interoperability, but because there's no common understanding of permissible scopes, there's no way to guarantee that any given client-server pair could expect to produce

Re: [OAUTH-WG] FW: Duplicating request component in an HTTP authentication scheme

2010-05-27 Thread Blaine Cook
On 28 May 2010 02:21, Brian Eaton bea...@google.com wrote: OAuth 1.0 was unusual in that it required that the server match a hash of the URL, rather than the real URL.  It's an extra layer of indirection and complexity.  It doesn't improve security. To be more precise, OAuth 1.0 required that

[OAUTH-WG] Call for Issues

2010-05-11 Thread Blaine Cook
Hannes and I are currently working on preparing an agenda for next week's meeting. In addition to the two issues Eran has open for comments on the list, we would like to solicit open issues from the community. Thanks to the incredible efforts that Eran and everyone else who has contributed

[OAUTH-WG] Call for Consensus (Deadline: April 22)

2010-04-23 Thread Blaine Cook
This is a call for consensus on accepting Eran's latest OAuth draft, draft-hammer-oauth2 [1] as a working group item. Assuming no objections by end-of-day Tuesday, April 22nd, this draft will be promoted to an active working group document on Wednesday, April 23rd. b. [1]

[OAUTH-WG] Reminder, 4/19 deadline for -00 WG draft feedback

2010-04-17 Thread Blaine Cook
This is a reminder that feedback that you'd like to see incorporated into the -00 working group draft is due by 4/19 (Monday). Please submit comments as a separate message to this list. Thanks! b. (see recent posts to the list and http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg01957.html

[OAUTH-WG] Next Steps

2010-03-24 Thread Blaine Cook
chair hat Hi all, Hannes and I have discussed the results of the WG meeting, and while there was a lot of good discussion that happened, it seems like the next step for the WG is to buckle down and produce a stable draft that incorporates all the various proposals, in particular WRAP and OAuth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] proposed agenda for second interim meeting

2010-02-03 Thread Blaine Cook
I've started a wiki page here: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/trac/wiki/OauthFeatureMatrix to pull in the features people think are important, and give us both some way of collecting that data over time and expressing what's present or missing from each protocol proposal. Despite being