Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-23 Thread Eran Hammer
b...@uninett.no] > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 1:23 AM > To: Eran Hammer > Cc: William Mills; oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in > Specification > > Den 20. jan. 2012 kl. 21:32 skrev Eran Hammer: > > > New text

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-23 Thread Andreas Åkre Solberg
Den 20. jan. 2012 kl. 21:32 skrev Eran Hammer: > New text added to Access Token Scope section: > > If the client omits the scope parameter when requesting > authorization, the authorization > server MUST process the request using a pre-defined default value, > or fail the r

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-20 Thread William Mills
Works for me. From: Eran Hammer To: William Mills ; "oauth@ietf.org" Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:32 PM Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification New text added to Access Token Scope section:     

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-20 Thread Igor Faynberg
:58 PM *To:* Eran Hammer; oauth@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification "Null string", "empty string", or "server defined default value" all work. Default scope doesn't do it for me. --

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-20 Thread Eran Hammer
gt;>; "oauth@ietf.org<mailto:oauth@ietf.org>" mailto:oauth@ietf.org>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:24 PM Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification I don’t like ‘empty scope’ as it is undefined. I prefer ‘default scope’. EHL From: Wil

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-10 Thread William Mills
Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification I don’t like ‘empty scope’ as it is undefined. I prefer ‘default scope’.   EHL   From:William Mills [mailto:wmi...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:02 PM To: Eran Hammer; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-10 Thread Eran Hammer
I don't like 'empty scope' as it is undefined. I prefer 'default scope'. EHL From: William Mills [mailto:wmi...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:02 PM To: Eran Hammer; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-10 Thread William Mills
Wups, there's a must in there that should be MUST. From: agks mehx To: William Mills ; Eran Hammer ; "oauth@ietf.org" Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-10 Thread agks mehx
mer > *To:* "oauth@ietf.org" > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:15 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in > Specification > > I don't think the issue here is about the scope value, but who does the > OPTIONAL desi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-10 Thread William Mills
From: Eran Hammer To: "oauth@ietf.org" Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification I don't think the issue here is about the scope value, but who does the OPTIONAL designation applies

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-10 Thread Eran Hammer
oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Phil Hunt > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:33 AM > To: SM > Cc: oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in > Specification > > The underlying issue is that the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-10 Thread Phil Hunt
The underlying issue is that there was a decision not to in any way standardize values for scope. I agreed this was reasonable since the underlying resource APIs are likely to be very specific requiring some degree of prior knowledge by the client app developer. Thus the resource server OAuth i

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-10 Thread SM
At 09:19 10-01-2012, William Mills wrote: That does clear it up! If the implementation returns a proper error when the scope is omitted then it will be in conformance. Sending an error result for the empty scope is valid. Yes. It is not possible to get a clear view of the specs if the discu

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-10 Thread William Mills
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification Please allow me to step-back and present the issue again in a different way: I think of Section 4.1.1 as an API specification.  In my entire career as a programmer I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-09 Thread agks mehx
t. Do we need that here too? Would that make > it clearer? > > -- > *From:* agks mehx > *To:* William Mills ; oauth@ietf.org > *Cc:* SM ; Eran Hammer > *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2012 5:57 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarifi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-09 Thread William Mills
Mills ; oauth@ietf.org Cc: SM ; Eran Hammer Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification That's fine and still consistent with the essence of (a), which is to require implementations to accept requests with

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-09 Thread agks mehx
ills ; oauth@ietf.org > *Cc:* SM ; Eran Hammer > *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2012 5:44 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in > Specification > > scope parameter in the HTTP requests. > > Two choices stand out to me: (a) keep t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-09 Thread William Mills
t support it. -bill From: agks mehx To: William Mills ; oauth@ietf.org Cc: SM ; Eran Hammer Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification scope parameter in the HTTP requests. Two choices stand out

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-09 Thread agks mehx
h@ietf.org > *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2012 4:17 PM > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in > Specification > > Hi SM and Eran, > > I am confused again, after re-reading Eran's response, whether or not an > implementation that rejects *mis

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-09 Thread William Mills
? From: agks mehx To: SM ; Eran Hammer ; oauth@ietf.org Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification Hi SM and Eran, I am confused again, after re-reading Eran's response, whether or not an implementation

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-09 Thread agks mehx
Hi SM and Eran, I am confused again, after re-reading Eran's response, whether or not an implementation that rejects *missing* (as opposed to empty) scope is conformant or not. (Eran, your response was a bit ambiguous on whether an implementation is free to error out on an missing scope parameter

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-09 Thread Eran Hammer
rom: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of agks mehx Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 2:13 PM To: oauth@ietf.org Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification My client implementation per latest draft did not work against a major vendor

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-09 Thread SM
At 14:12 08-01-2012, agks mehx wrote: I reported this to the vendor and the vendor claims that the IETF draft specification says scope is OPTIONAL and that means the vendor is free to make it required in a conforming implementation. If a bit is said to be optional, it means that it will not ca

[OAUTH-WG] Seeking Clarification: Potential Ambiguity in Specification

2012-01-08 Thread agks mehx
My client implementation per latest draft did not work against a major vendor's server implementation. This was because the vendor REQUIRES the scope parameter in the initial request. If I do not supply the scope parameter, it calls back the URL with an error response stating that the request is