Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2012-01-20 Thread Igor Faynberg
Since there is so much agreement and peace in the air, I would through a little editorial query: Would it not be better to say "the appropriate version" instead of this somewaht lawyerish "version (or versions)"? Igor On 1/20/2012 3:44 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: Added to section 1: TLS Ve

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2012-01-20 Thread Barry Leiba
> Added to section 1: > >   TLS Version > >          Whenever TLS is required by this specification, the appropriate > version (or versions) of >          TLS will vary over time, based on the widespread deployment and > known security >          vulnerabilities. At the time of this writing, TLS

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2012-01-20 Thread Eran Hammer
ba > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:56 AM > To: oauth WG > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base > > To close out this issue: > There's disagreement about whether this proposed text is "necessary", but > no one thinks it's *

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-18 Thread Barry Leiba
To close out this issue: There's disagreement about whether this proposed text is "necessary", but no one thinks it's *bad*, and I see consensus to use it. Eran, please make the following change in two places in the base document: > OLD > The authorization server MUST support TLS 1.0 ([RFC2246]),

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-12 Thread Justin Richer
t think it causes any problems. *From:* Rob Richards *To:* Mike Jones *Cc:* Barry Leiba ; oauth WG *Sent:* Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:26 AM *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base I am fine with it Rob On 12/9/11 1:30 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > It looks

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-11 Thread William Mills
I think it's overkill, but I don't think it causes any problems. From: Rob Richards To: Mike Jones Cc: Barry Leiba ; oauth WG Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base I am fi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-10 Thread Rob Richards
ments. -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:59 PM To: Stephen Farrell Cc: Barry Leiba; oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base On 12/1/11 1:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
aint-Andre Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:59 PM To: Stephen Farrell Cc: Barry Leiba; oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base On 12/1/11 1:57 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: On 12/01/2011 08:10 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 12/1/11 1:09 PM, Rob Richards wro

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-09 Thread Mike Jones
f.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:59 PM To: Stephen Farrell Cc: Barry Leiba; oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base On 12/1/11 1:57 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > > On 12/01/2011 08:10 P

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-05 Thread Zeltsan, Zachary (Zachary)
Stephen Farrell Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:57 PM To: Peter Saint-Andre Cc: Barry Leiba; oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base On 12/01/2011 08:10 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 12/1/11 1:09 PM, Rob Richards wrote: >> On 11/28/11 10:39 PM, Barr

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-01 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 12/1/11 1:57 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > > On 12/01/2011 08:10 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> On 12/1/11 1:09 PM, Rob Richards wrote: >>> On 11/28/11 10:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: > The OAuth base doc refers in two places to TLS versions (with the same > text in both places: > >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-01 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 12/01/2011 08:10 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 12/1/11 1:09 PM, Rob Richards wrote: On 11/28/11 10:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: The OAuth base doc refers in two places to TLS versions (with the same text in both places: OLD The authorization server MUST support TLS 1.0 ([RFC2246]), SHOULD

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-01 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 12/1/11 1:09 PM, Rob Richards wrote: > On 11/28/11 10:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: >>> The OAuth base doc refers in two places to TLS versions (with the same >>> text in both places: >>> >>> OLD >>> The authorization server MUST support TLS 1.0 ([RFC2246]), SHOULD >>> support TLS 1.2 ([RFC5246]) an

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-01 Thread Rob Richards
On 11/28/11 10:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: The OAuth base doc refers in two places to TLS versions (with the same text in both places: OLD The authorization server MUST support TLS 1.0 ([RFC2246]), SHOULD support TLS 1.2 ([RFC5246]) and its future replacements, and MAY support additional transport

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-28 Thread Barry Leiba
> The OAuth base doc refers in two places to TLS versions (with the same > text in both places: > > OLD > The authorization server MUST support TLS 1.0 ([RFC2246]), SHOULD > support TLS 1.2 ([RFC5246]) and its future replacements, and MAY > support additional transport-layer mechanisms meeting its

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Phil Hunt
Are there any features of TLS 1.2 that are specifically needed for OAuth2? Can you identify a technical reason other then 'we gotta move the market forward'? Given past history in the WG where having any transport security was contentious, I suspect there would be significant objection to 1.2.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Justin Richer
Agree with Rob here. Also, from an application and service developer's perspective, the check for "TLS compliance" is going to go something like this: 1) Does that url start with "https"? 2) If yes, I'm compliant! 3) If no, make the url start with "https" 4) Done! Which will put us in exactly the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Rob Richards
I'm saying that it's very difficult for someone to implement an AS that implements TLS 1.2. TLS 1.2 is not supported in the a good number of systems people deploy on. For example, the use of Apache and OpenSSL accounts for a good number of web servers out there. The only way to deploy a conform

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Barry Leiba
> And if the servers don't implement the "should" on 1.0 how do we get > deployments for the other actors that can't talk to 1.2 1. Do you think we'll really see implementations that don't work with what's out there? 2. SHOULD doesn't mean MAY. SHOULD means "MUST, unless you have a really good r

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Anthony Nadalin
2011 3:19 AM To: Rob Richards Cc: oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base > Please refer to this thread about the problem with requiring anything > more than TLS 1.0 > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg07234.html > > You will end u

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Barry Leiba
> Please refer to this thread about the problem with requiring anything more > than TLS 1.0 > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg07234.html > > You will end up with a spec that virtually no one can implement and be in > conformance with. I still have yet to find an implementation

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Anthony Nadalin
: oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base Please refer to this thread about the problem with requiring anything more than TLS 1.0 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg07234.html You will end up with a spec that virtually no one can implement and be

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Rob Richards
Please refer to this thread about the problem with requiring anything more than TLS 1.0 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg07234.html You will end up with a spec that virtually no one can implement and be in conformance with. I still have yet to find an implementation out in

[OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-11-17 Thread Barry Leiba
The OAuth base doc refers in two places to TLS versions (with the same text in both places: OLD The authorization server MUST support TLS 1.0 ([RFC2246]), SHOULD support TLS 1.2 ([RFC5246]) and its future replacements, and MAY support additional transport-layer mechanisms meeting its security requ