Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
If you specify it. It is supported but not required. EHL On Jul 16, 2010, at 16:16, "Brian Eaton" wrote: > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Yaron Goland wrote: >> That's my point. The spec says " Words of *TEXT MAY contain characters from >> character sets other than ISO- 8859-1 [22] only

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-16 Thread Brian Eaton
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Yaron Goland wrote: > That's my point. The spec says " Words of *TEXT MAY contain characters from > character sets other than ISO- 8859-1 [22] only when encoded according to the > rules of RFC 2047 [14]." But since RFC 2047 is a dead letter as a practical > mat

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-16 Thread Yaron Goland
Yaron Goland > Cc: Eran Hammer-Lahav; OAuth WG > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm' > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Yaron Goland > wrote: > > As defined in section 4.2 of RFC 2616 the only characters legally allowed > > in a > HTTP heade

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-13 Thread Robert Sayre
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Yaron Goland wrote: > As defined in section 4.2 of RFC 2616 the only characters legally allowed in > a HTTP header are a fairly small subset of ASCII. I don't think that is correct. The definition of the TEXT rule in section 2.2 allows most octets. It also refere

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-13 Thread Yaron Goland
. > -Original Message- > From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Eran Hammer-Lahav > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 8:29 PM > To: Robert Sayre > Cc: OAuth WG > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm' > > >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-11 Thread William Mills
> -Original Message- > From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Brian Eaton > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:56 PM > To: Eran Hammer-Lahav > Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm&

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
On 7/11/10 3:32 PM, "Robert Sayre" wrote: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav > wrote: >> [this has noting to do with realm] >> >> Any solution should be: >> >> - Extensible ­ we removed the few discovery parameters from the core spec >> due to lack of maturity and consens

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-11 Thread Robert Sayre
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > [this has noting to do with realm] > > Any solution should be: > > - Extensible – we removed the few discovery parameters from the core spec > due to lack of maturity and consensus. However, we clearly have enough > strong interest in re

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
[this has noting to do with realm] Any solution should be: - Extensible - we removed the few discovery parameters from the core spec due to lack of maturity and consensus. However, we clearly have enough strong interest in reintroducing them as extensions. The WWW-Authenticate header is the na

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-11 Thread Eve Maler
+1. James states two important requirements (don't stand in the way of dynamic config, provide end-user authz endpoint at a minimum) we need to meet, whatever we pick. Eve On 11 Jul 2010, at 6:12 AM, Manger, James H wrote: > Brian, > >> Or even just: >> >> WWW-Authenticate: OAuth2 >>

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-11 Thread Manger, James H
Brian, > Or even just: > > WWW-Authenticate: OAuth2 > > Seriously. I seriously hope not. It gives no chance for a client to work with a service without being pre-configured with a whole lot of service-specific knowledge -- in addition to an app-id/password. I don't think a realm parameter adds

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
You mean the syntax used by most HTTP headers? There is clearly a need for adding extensions. EHL On Jul 11, 2010, at 2:55, Brian Eaton wrote: > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav > wrote: >> 1. Leave it as required under the definition of RFC 2617 (i.e. provide no >> help, d

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-11 Thread Robert Sayre
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Brian Eaton wrote: > > Let's use a format like this: > > WWW-Authenticate: OAuth2 base64() > > Or even just: > > WWW-Authenticate: OAuth2 > > Seriously. Looks good. Doesn't matter which the WG picks. > 1) dropping the name="value" syntax won't break the internet

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-07-10 Thread Brian Eaton
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > 1. Leave it as required under the definition of RFC 2617 (i.e. provide no > help, developers will need to ready 2617 and figure out what to do with it). > > 2. Update 2617 to remove the requirement – this is not going to be easy or > poss

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-06-28 Thread Yaron Goland
+1 (for #3->#4) From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Torsten Lodderstedt Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:08 AM To: Dick Hardt Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm' +1 Am 28.06.2010 07:37, schrieb Dick

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-06-28 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
+1 Am 28.06.2010 07:37, schrieb Dick Hardt: I vote for (3) unless a good (4) is suggested. On 2010-06-27, at 6:51 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: Over the past year many people expressed concerns about the use of the ‘realm’ WWW-Authenticate header parameter. The parameter is defined in RFC 261

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-06-28 Thread William Mills
#3 +1 > 2010/6/28 Dick Hardt : > > I vote for (3) unless a good (4) is suggested. > > On 2010-06-27, at 6:51 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > > > > Over the past year many people expressed concerns about the > use of the > > 'realm' WWW-Authenticate header parameter. The parameter is > defined in

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-06-28 Thread Pid
On 28/06/2010 06:37, Dick Hardt wrote: > I vote for (3) unless a good (4) is suggested. Ditto. p > On 2010-06-27, at 6:51 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > >> Over the past year many people expressed concerns about the use of the >> ‘realm’ WWW-Authenticate header parameter. The parameter is defi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-06-28 Thread Lukas Rosenstock
+1 2010/6/28 Dick Hardt : > I vote for (3) unless a good (4) is suggested. > On 2010-06-27, at 6:51 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > > Over the past year many people expressed concerns about the use of the > ‘realm’ WWW-Authenticate header parameter. The parameter is defined in RFC > 2617 as require

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-06-27 Thread Dick Hardt
I vote for (3) unless a good (4) is suggested. On 2010-06-27, at 6:51 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > Over the past year many people expressed concerns about the use of the > ‘realm’ WWW-Authenticate header parameter. The parameter is defined in RFC > 2617 as required, and is allowed to have sch

[OAUTH-WG] What to do about 'realm'

2010-06-27 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Over the past year many people expressed concerns about the use of the 'realm' WWW-Authenticate header parameter. The parameter is defined in RFC 2617 as required, and is allowed to have scheme-specific structure. We have a few options: 1. Leave it as required under the definition of RFC 2617 (