Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ?

2013-02-06 Thread Lewis Adam-CAL022
[mailto:wmills_92...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:49 PM To: Lewis Adam-CAL022; Tim Bray Cc: WG oauth@ietf.org@il06exr02.mot.com Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ? Why use OAuth when OpenID does everything that OAuth can do as an authentication method

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ?

2013-02-06 Thread John Bradley
, 2013 2:27 PM Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ? I think this is becoming a largely academic / philosophical argument by this time. The people who designed OAuth will likely point out that it was conceptualized as an authorization protocol to enable

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ?

2013-02-06 Thread Nat Sakimura
@il06exr02.mot.com *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ? ** ** Why use OAuth when OpenID does everything that OAuth can do as an authentication method and does a few things much better? Specifically OAuth lacks any defined way

[OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ?

2013-02-05 Thread Prabath Siriwardena
FYI and for your comments.. http://blog.facilelogin.com/2013/02/why-oauth-it-self-is-not-authentication.html Thanks Regards, Prabath Mobile : +94 71 809 6732 http://blog.facilelogin.com http://RampartFAQ.com ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ?

2013-02-05 Thread John Bradley
OAuth is an Authorization protocol as many of us have pointed out. The post is largely correct and based on one of mine. John B. On 2013-02-05, at 12:52 PM, Prabath Siriwardena prab...@wso2.com wrote: FYI and for your comments..

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ?

2013-02-05 Thread Justin Richer
Another very good writeup of this was published recently as well: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vbertocci/archive/2013/01/02/oauth-2-0-and-sign-in.aspx This confusion seems to be a major sticking point among developers. -- Justin On 02/05/2013 02:52 PM, Prabath Siriwardena wrote: FYI and for your

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ?

2013-02-05 Thread Paul Madsen
why pigeonhole it? OAuth can be deployed with no authz semantics at all (or at least as little as any authn mechanism), e.g client creds grant type with no scopes I agree that OAuth is not an *SSO* protocol. On 2/5/13 3:36 PM, John Bradley wrote: OAuth is an Authorization protocol as many

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ?

2013-02-05 Thread William Mills
paul.mad...@gmail.com To: John Bradley ve7...@ve7jtb.com Cc: oauth@ietf.org WG oauth@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ? why pigeonhole it? OAuth can be deployed with no authz semantics at all (or at least

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ?

2013-02-05 Thread Tim Bray
, February 5, 2013 1:12 PM *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ? why pigeonhole it? OAuth can be deployed with no authz semantics at all (or at least as little as any authn mechanism), e.g client creds grant type with no scopes I agree that OAuth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ?

2013-02-05 Thread Lewis Adam-CAL022
...@ve7jtb.commailto:ve7...@ve7jtb.com Cc: oauth@ietf.orgmailto:oauth@ietf.org WG oauth@ietf.orgmailto:oauth@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ? why pigeonhole it? OAuth can be deployed with no authz

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ?

2013-02-05 Thread John Bradley
] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:28 PM To: William Mills Cc: oauth@ietf.org WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ? OIDC seems about the most plausible candidate for a “good general solution” that I’m aware of. -T

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ?

2013-02-05 Thread William Mills
: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Why OAuth it self is not an authentication framework ? I think this is becoming a largely academic / philosophical argument by this time.  The people who designed OAuth will likely point out that it was conceptualized as an authorization protocol to enable a RO to delegate