Re: [obsnw] Liquor Menace

2011-01-24 Thread Julia Teale
I support Teun's letter. It reflects the frustration many of us feel about the situation. Julia Teale. - Original Message - From: Justin Ashley To: obsnw@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [obsnw] Liquor Menace I fully support T

Re: [obsnw] Liquor Menace

2011-01-24 Thread Trevor McPherson
yes but Jonathan's point is that 'that anger and frustration' be articulated in a clear and objective way. The letter looses all credibility by engaging in oblique suppositions and perhaps even harms our case. I understand he's angry, but its dismissed by anyone in authority as the mud-slinging

Re: [obsnw] Liquor Menace

2011-01-24 Thread Gill Gimberg
gt; > Justin Ashley > > Chairperson: Obsid > > > > > > *From:* obsnw@googlegroups.com [mailto:obsnw@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf > Of *Trevor Hughes > *Sent:* 24 January 2011 07:48 AM > *To:* obsnw@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [obsnw] Liquor Menace > >

RE: [obsnw] Liquor Menace

2011-01-23 Thread Justin Ashley
ups.com Subject: Re: [obsnw] Liquor Menace Here is the text of the letter :- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. To post to this group, send email to obsnw@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

Re: [obsnw] Liquor Menace

2011-01-23 Thread James Cowley
Hi David Yes Teun had let rip at the establishments. I am not sure if the Obs community support him or would support your letter or even the action that we as individuals have carried out for the past year or so against the lawlessness of the liquor outlets. All this could be tested via a poll in O

Re: [obsnw] Liquor Menace

2011-01-23 Thread Jonathan Endersby
Hi I am all for tighter controls on the sale of alcohol and a more civilized community but I can't help but notice that many of Teun's bullet points, while _possibly_ true, are completely unprovable or have yet to be proven. This sort of hyperbolic discourse ( specifically "or go home and beat up

[obsnw] Liquor Menace

2011-01-23 Thread David Raphael
I recommend that residents read the letter of the above heading in the Cape Times today sent in by Teun Baartman our Woodstock Community Police Forum Chairperson. I believe he has strong support in his views from the Obs Community. Do residents agree with me and would anyone care to comment? Ta