Re: [oi-dev] [hhinn...@apple.com: Re: [cfe-dev] libc++ ABI stability]

2011-05-24 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
Hi Guido, Thanks for forwarding this, libc++ sounds rather promising. Without us testing it there's no way to know for sure what kind of issues we'll see in the field, so I'll mention in the policy document draft that libc++ is a candidate for our default open C++ library subject to testing. W

Re: [oi-dev] Transitioning from Sun Studio to gcc & clang/llvm

2011-05-24 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
Hi Guido, On 23 May 2011, at 21:29, Guido Berhoerster wrote: > * Alasdair Lumsden [2011-05-23 17:22]: >> This is why the gcc version supplied will be fixed for a 5+ year period - I >> doubt we'll be changing the gcc version any time soon after doing this. When >> we do update to a newer GCC or

Re: [oi-dev] [hhinn...@apple.com: Re: [cfe-dev] libc++ ABIstability]

2011-05-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
Just a quick note. I fully support moving to an open C++ library, but be advised that we will still need the closed Sun binaries in order to support legacy apps. Of course I think nobody should use C++ but that is a different rant and probably highly controversial. :) -- Garrett D'Amore O

Re: [oi-dev] Transitioning from Sun Studio to gcc & clang/llvm

2011-05-24 Thread Garrett D'Amore
I doubt Oracle will care about binary compatibility going forward, and I half expect us not to see any more separate Solaris releases after Solaris 11. If it is not in Exadata, I don't think Oracle cares. -- Garrett D'Amore On May 24, 2011, at 12:13 PM, "Alasdair Lumsden" wrote: > Hi Guido

Re: [oi-dev] Transitioning from Sun Studio to gcc & clang/llvm

2011-05-24 Thread Andrzej Szeszo
On 05/23/11 04:22 PM, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: Hi Albert, Thanks for the feedback, partial answers inline below! On 23 May 2011, at 16:05, Albert Lee wrote: Should we be linking libgcc statically (apparently adds on the order of 10k to every binary) or will every application depend on a package

Re: [oi-dev] Transitioning from Sun Studio to gcc & clang/llvm

2011-05-24 Thread ken mays
+1.   I'm going to point this out, as I've dealt with C++ development for quite some time. Stick with GCC/libstdc++ as the baseline.   GCC 4.5.2 is preferred. Updating to GCC 4.5.3 is up to OI/Illumos development teams in whole. Don't use GCC 4.6.x for the current oi_151(a-z) stabilization.   Usa

Re: [oi-dev] Build 151 status update

2011-05-24 Thread Andrzej Szeszo
Hi All Due to last minute packaging fixes I wasn't able to update the /dev-il repo last night. I have pushed new packages to /dev-il repo this morning and image-updated my 148b machine from it. It appears to be working ok so far. If you plan to build illumos-gate on oi_151 please note that b

Re: [oi-dev] [hhinn...@apple.com: Re: [cfe-dev] libc++ ABIstability]

2011-05-24 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
Hi Garrett, On 24 May 2011, at 09:13, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > Just a quick note. I fully support moving to an open C++ library, but be > advised that we will still need the closed Sun binaries in order to support > legacy apps. Of course I think nobody should use C++ but that is a different

Re: [oi-dev] Build 151 status update

2011-05-24 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 12:24 +0100, Andrzej Szeszo wrote: > Hi All > > Due to last minute packaging fixes I wasn't able to update the /dev-il > repo last night. I have pushed new packages to /dev-il repo this morning > and image-updated my 148b machine from it. It appears to be working ok > so f

Re: [oi-dev] Build 151 status update

2011-05-24 Thread Andrzej Szeszo
Hi Ken I can confirm I am getting the same problem with the GUI tool on b148. The same system can be upgraded using pkg(5) command just fine. Andrzej On 05/24/11 02:11 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 12:24 +0100, Andrzej Szeszo wrote: Hi All Due to last minute packaging fixe

Re: [oi-dev] gates, queues

2011-05-24 Thread Bayard Bell
I'm bumping this, as part of the problem that needs sorting is where to manage security patches that need doing around 151. I had an agenda item for last week's meeting to discuss this. Hopefully we'll be able to discuss this at today's meeting (which *is* happening? ;->). On 18 May 2011, at 1

Re: [oi-dev] Build 151 status update

2011-05-24 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 16:02 +0100, Andrzej Szeszo wrote: > Hi Ken > > I can confirm I am getting the same problem with the GUI tool on b148. > The same system can be upgraded using pkg(5) command just fine. Another Gnome glitch to add to the list? I seem to be encountering quite a few, and alth

Re: [oi-dev] 148b Audio Issues - Follow Up

2011-05-24 Thread Tim Stewart
Ken, On 05/23/11 11:55 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 23:20 -0600, Ken Gunderson wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 06:16 +0400, Garrett D'Amore wrote: I have an envy24 driver nearly ready to integrate, but I have held off as I don't have the hardware. If you want to send me the ha

Re: [oi-dev] Windows Shares Issues

2011-05-24 Thread lleo
Hopefully, I am overlooking something very simple. Updated today to 151. Everything work as before -- virtually all the unusual pauses from before have completely disappeared. Tried to connect to the Win 2K servers to copy over some work and keep getting the password request over and over a

Re: [oi-dev] 148b Audio Issues - Follow Up

2011-05-24 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 17:24 -0400, Tim Stewart wrote: > Ken, > > On 05/23/11 11:55 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote: > > On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 23:20 -0600, Ken Gunderson wrote: > >> On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 06:16 +0400, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > >>> I have an envy24 driver nearly ready to integrate, but I have