RE: [old-chevy-truck] RE: 230 inline 6

2013-10-14 Thread Deve Krehbiel
There is more to it than that Bill. You would have to fashion special brackets to mount the mounts to. It's not impossible and your local welding shop could probably help, but it is much preferable to use the 235 or 261 in this truck. Of course we see lots of V8s in these trucks so anything is poss

RE: [old-chevy-truck] parts

2013-09-18 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Summit Racing is who puts them on Ebay. If you go to Summit Racing's website, the same stuff and more will be there. Have never ordered truck stuff from them yet. From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rl_westmorel...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesd

RE: [old-chevy-truck] RE: Sound reduction ?

2013-09-17 Thread Deve Krehbiel
There is also a rather new spray on product called Lizard Skin. Interesting product depending on how far you have the truck taken apart. http://www.lizardskin.com/ From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dennis.mcgil...@gmail.com S

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Transmissions

2013-09-11 Thread Deve Krehbiel
your working on try here http://www.adchevy.com/techtips/t5swap/ and here they talk about shifter location http://www.inliners.org/Jack/T5tech.html On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Deve Krehbiel wrote: Is there any 4 speed transmissions you can bolt up to the back of a 261 and have the

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Transmissions

2013-09-10 Thread Deve Krehbiel
-truck] Transmissions not sure what yr your working on try here http://www.adchevy.com/techtips/t5swap/ and here they talk about shifter location http://www.inliners.org/Jack/T5tech.html On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Deve Krehbiel wrote: Is there any 4 speed transmissions you can

[old-chevy-truck] Transmissions

2013-09-09 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Is there any 4 speed transmissions you can bolt up to the back of a 261 and have the stick come thru the floor in the normal place on an AD? Someone on Stovebolt mentioned the T5 out of an S10 but that puts the stick back quite a bit. I want to run highway speeds. Thanks! Deve

RE: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started

2013-09-02 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Yeah, we all ran into this conundrum at one time or the other. I decided on 12v upgrade because everything is 12v these days and its not good on the system to get a jump from a 12v battery if you are stuck somewhere. There is alot to doing that right, but for me it's worth it. You can get 12v mo

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Engine paint color/ vender recommendation

2013-08-09 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Lyn is right, it differed from factory to factory or what person was mixing that day. I am very pleased with Hirsh and it has been holding up very well. -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of joerod...@aol.com Sent:

RE: [old-Chevy-truck] clutch-head screw removal

2013-08-03 Thread Deve Krehbiel
These days they make electric drill drivers that have a hammer action. They are very portable and very nice to use. Like this one (the one on the left): http://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-2697-22-18-Volt-2-Inch-2-Tool/dp/B002WJH9WO/ref=sr_1_83?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1375535140&sr=1-83 Our local lumber ya

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Engine paint color

2013-07-12 Thread Deve Krehbiel
http://www.hirschauto.com/prodinfo.asp?number=EE-QUART Ask them for the correct 216 engine enamel. Its medium gray but they provide it in spray cans and its very good quality. -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jo

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Re : 216/235 & 261 Ignition Timing

2013-07-06 Thread Deve Krehbiel
The new tune-up procedure Nate did would help. Its in my how-to section. What I always do is turn on the ignition, open the distributor cap and with a small screwdriver, rock the points a little. If you get spark there, chances are its not an electrical issue. Then, once I see some sparking there,

RE: [old-chevy-truck] steering wheel

2013-06-16 Thread Deve Krehbiel
I know this one!!! PICK ME! Use a sledge hammer or a giant pipe wrench! Happy Fathers Day! Seriously, I have always removed the nut, then pretty gently tapped the back of the wheel at the base using a piece of wood (pine or something rather soft) with a hammer. I use PB Blaster (12 oz can that dis

RE: [old-chevy-truck] clutch-head screw removal

2013-06-14 Thread Deve Krehbiel
PB Blaster -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:56 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [old-chevy-truck] clutch-head screw removal Tom, When you buy squirt gun

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: rattling transmission

2013-06-09 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Yeah, 10 years in the Air Force out on the flightline, we used them every day. If not for shock mounts, for cannon plugs. Since then, I use them to make hangers for painting, secure assemblies, etc. HF sells them real cheap and they work. -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroup

[old-chevy-truck] Nate comes through once again!

2013-06-01 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Nate really did a great job on this new Tuning Procedure for our trucks. Check it out, critique it, and let me know what it needs to help make it as user friendly as possible. Thanks again Nate! http://speedprint.com/deves50/doc/natestuningguide.pdf Ole Ch

RE: [old-chevy-truck] carb gasket

2013-05-19 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Are there tuneup specs for the Roch new style 235/261 setup? I could use both really. I am putting together an engine tuneup guide and this would be a good idea to also include? Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truc

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Two Ton truck

2013-04-28 Thread Deve Krehbiel
So I am traveling through Angelfire, NM and as everyone knows there is quite a rivalry between the college teams. Well, I go to use the restroom and on the Sh*thouse wall was... "Here I sit my buns aflex'n giving birth to another Texan." (that was a joke, don't any Texans get excited) -Origin

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Tune up hijacked!

2013-04-20 Thread Deve Krehbiel
hico On Mar 28, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Deve Krehbiel wrote: > I am putting the finishing touches on the re-riveting document now, so in about a week or so, I should have it on the site. Then other documents will start happening faster.. My son is helping me completely re-do the site. Its been over 1

RE: [old-chevy-truck] YOM License Tags

2013-04-14 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Speaking of this, In Kansas we can use an original tag as the registered tag. Does anyone know (before I call the DMV and get a several day runaround) if you can custom paint this original tag colors that are not original? 1950 was green and silver in Kansas, and I dunno what they were thinking. My

RE: [old-chevy-truck] And So It Begins

2013-04-03 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Nate, I am not sure if the idea of grandchildren falls within the 'Keep it Stock' philosophy. Put it back. :) -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John & Joanne Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 10:11 PM To: old-chevy

[old-chevy-truck] Frame Riveting Procedure is UP

2013-03-30 Thread Deve Krehbiel
I finally got the frame riveting procedure done. I did the job a few weeks ago, but these procedures take time. I am also giving it to the people at stovebolt.com to put on their site. It's in the how-to section. Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 Ole Chevy an

RE: [old-chevy-truck] adjust pedal locations

2013-03-30 Thread Deve Krehbiel
I don't know if this will help, there is no adjustment for that as far as I know. Over time, the cab mounts settle, the frame settles, and before you know it, things arent aligned properly. What might work best (just off the top of my head) is to remove the front cab mounting bolts, just loosen the

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Tune up hijacked!

2013-03-28 Thread Deve Krehbiel
? --- On Thu, 3/28/13, Deve Krehbiel wrote: From: Deve Krehbiel Subject: RE: [old-chevy-truck] Tune up To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 28, 2013, 6:07 AM Coming Nate! I had to finish a frame re-riveting procedure first so

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Tune up

2013-03-28 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Coming Nate! I had to finish a frame re-riveting procedure first so that is almost done, then I will make yours look great and get it on the site. Sorry it is taking so long. Are you sure rather than tuning up your old truck you wouldnt rather replace some of the rivets in your frame? LOL Deve www

RE: [old-chevy-truck] 216 dizzy alignment

2013-02-24 Thread Deve Krehbiel
There is some really good info on this in my how-to section. As soon as I get time, Nate made a very nice tune-up guide that will be there as well. Lots happening soon! (as I recall, it's supposed to be at 6 o'clock but check it out) Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- Fr

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Little Help!

2012-12-27 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Yayhoo Groups is really living up to its name... seems mail delivery is way slow. I posted that question about a month ago. WOW! Thought something was funny when I wasnt getting replies. Found a short shaft at Jim Carters, problem solved. Thx! :) Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Origi

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Carb rebuilding question

2012-12-14 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Sometimes when the chips are down, I break out my 3 wood. :) -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of corval...@peoplepc.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 1:26 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [old-c

[old-chevy-truck] test?

2012-12-11 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Is it just me? nobodys talkin. WTH? Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:

[old-chevy-truck] Hydraulic Lifters

2012-12-03 Thread Deve Krehbiel
I maybe used to know this, but its been ages.. With Hydraulic Valve Lifters, do you have to prime them somehow when starting a new engine for the first time? I am AT LAST going to start my 261 engine after rebuilding it 10 years ago and letting it sit. Back operations, etc caused me to have to put

[old-chevy-truck] Rivets

2012-11-29 Thread Deve Krehbiel
I want to take one of my running board brackets off. The one nearest the battery. Someone decided to put a larger battery in the truck by grinding half of the bracket off. Is there a vendor that sells the stock looking rivets or something that looks like a rivet? Thought I would ask before grind

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Little Help!

2012-11-29 Thread Deve Krehbiel
From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Deve Krehbiel Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:37 AM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Little Help! I am working on final preparations for putting the cab back on my fully rest

[old-chevy-truck] Little Help!

2012-11-27 Thread Deve Krehbiel
I am working on final preparations for putting the cab back on my fully restored frame and am installing the radiator bracket. There is no choice where the bracket goes (give or take) so with a 261 engine on the frame, you cant put the radiator back where it was originally on the outside back of

RE: [old-chevy-truck] 235 Engine Head Bolts

2012-11-26 Thread Deve Krehbiel
The only Langford Google understands is about Cows. If anyone knows anything about this person, lemme know. -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Pewterbaugh Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:33 AM To: old-che

RE: [old-chevy-truck] 235 Engine Head Bolts

2012-11-26 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Head Bolts are something I hate to change out because of internal oil journals, etc that I probably dont know are there. Instructions from Langford? Where do I find these instructions? I am having about 6 235's machined and maybe thats a worthwhile modification? Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Re : 49 Driver window glass removal.

2012-11-12 Thread Deve Krehbiel
If they are the ones I am thinking of, they are slotted screws with a hole in the middle. The slot is on each side of the hole and very easy to miss when they are all rusted. You can get new ones thru the vendors. Not too hard to drill out if nothing else. Nate? Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Voltage Reducer

2012-11-12 Thread Deve Krehbiel
If you do order a 12v motor, check out the how-to on my website. I havent found a 12v motor that is a perfect drop-in replacement (diameter of the motor is slightly different) so this was my fix for that. http://www.speedprint.com/deves50/heaterrestore.php Allen is right IMHO, the best way to do i

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Grille Parts Help Needed

2012-11-01 Thread Deve Krehbiel
. I don't think the top bar has a notch. The notches are obvious. Was that your question? Good luck. Allen From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of Deve Krehbiel [dkrehb...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, November 0

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Grille Parts Help Needed

2012-11-01 Thread Deve Krehbiel
I am trying to make sense out of a pile of grille parts I have accumulated over the years and recently acquired (thx John!) and I THINK the big trucks have a different size grille. So if you have a pile of grille parts, its about enough to send you to the funny farm (which I have visited already on

RE: [old-chevy-truck] interior question--windlace tips

2012-10-17 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Vaseline (KY) and a piece of string. Put the string inside the rubber (sticks there with the ky) and leave enough to pull. String the string all the way around the rubber, put it in place and with someone on the other side pushing just slightly, pull the string. I learned it from a professional ins

RE: [old-chevy-truck] flywheel teeth

2012-08-31 Thread Deve Krehbiel
There is a how-to on my website about flywheels. Here it is.. Flywheel Voltages Explained Some of you have heard from our e-mail lists people talking about 6-volt and 12-volt flywheels. This is not a misspelling; it's a reality. The trucks older than 1955 that have 6-volt systems require a 139-to

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Master Cylinder problems

2012-08-26 Thread Deve Krehbiel
When I install a master cylinder in these trucks, I have a small tubing setup that pushes brake fluid into the second stage of the cylinder to help prime the system. So, I fill the cylinder, attach the cutoff brake line that goes from the output of the cylinder BACK into the fill hole, pump it seve

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Having trouble with my 216

2012-08-08 Thread Deve Krehbiel
I would try Jeff's timing procedure first before going further. It's in the How-To section on my website. Nate's tuning procedure will be there soon. :) Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Be

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: timing with electronic ignition

2012-07-19 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Are you happy with Langdon's HEI? I am thinking of going that route too. Thx Allen! Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Jones Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:44 PM To: old-ch

RE: [old-chevy-truck] differences in AD half tons

2012-06-30 Thread Deve Krehbiel
http://speedprint.com/deves50/adyearid.php There is also a History page that explains some of it. Good luck Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old

[old-chevy-truck] Gauge Questions

2012-06-26 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Hi guys! Its getting close to time to start my rebuilt engine and I am making a 'Start Cart' which amounts to two batteries, a 6 and a 12 volt, set of gauges, small gas tank and the necessary wiring to roll the cart up to any car and jumper it eliminating all of the current wiring. So, I want thi

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Tech Sheet ~ Tune Up

2012-06-21 Thread Deve Krehbiel
As everyone knows, Nate is THE go-to guy for anything this vintage, and I am honored to have his tune-up guide. I will be trying it out soon and consulting with him to get it ironed out into a really perfect document that everyone will appreciate. I am about a month away from giving it a try on one

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Casting numbers 1941 Chevy 1/2 ton

2012-06-18 Thread Deve Krehbiel
The number that matters is near the distributor, just under it and the number starts with 36, 37 or 38. You can look up the year of your engine at www.speedprint.com/Deves50 how-to resources GM engine casting numbers. Hope this helps! Deve -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogr

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tuning a GM legacy engine

2012-06-07 Thread Deve Krehbiel
what other old trucks list? I thought this was the only one. What am I missing out on? :) Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:40 PM To: old-ch

[old-chevy-truck] Tuning a GM legacy engine

2012-06-04 Thread Deve Krehbiel
By NATE!! Cant wait my friend! We are all very excited about your guidance on how to properly do it. If you use timing lights and dwell tachs, please tell us where to get them and what model number. This is old tech and normal auto parts stores may no longer carry them. Yes Nate, this message is fo

RE: [old-chevy-truck] FREE Muncie SM465 Tranny

2012-05-21 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Can you get highway speeds with it? does it bolt right up to our BH? Torque Tube or no? Go ahead and use dwell/tach etc if you want for the instruction. You do good work in explaining things. Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Shifter Options

2012-05-20 Thread Deve Krehbiel
with 3.31 and lower(3.07/2.73...) ratio rear end gears will give you highway speeds and more. Mark --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, "Deve Krehbiel" wrote: > > Hi Guys! I am working on the 50 3100 with a Borg Overdrive tranny with > three on the tree. I dont like tree sh

[old-chevy-truck] Shifter Options

2012-05-19 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Hi Guys! I am working on the 50 3100 with a Borg Overdrive tranny with three on the tree. I dont like tree shifting on these old trucks. There is something about that tall shifter sticking up from the floor in just the right place to rest your hand there. Its part of the attraction. So, is there a

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re : Proper Tuning The StoveBolt Engine

2012-05-08 Thread Deve Krehbiel
I sure will remind you. You already have a very nice valve adjust procedure on the site so this would be a really nice addition. Sorry to hear about the Dental surgery. I hate that. Here's to hoping you get a good lucking therapist! :) Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- F

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re : Proper Tuning The StoveBolt Engine

2012-05-07 Thread Deve Krehbiel
I would put that on my web site as well. Feeling any pressure Nate? :) Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of harley davidson Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 6:12 AM To: old-chevy-truck@yah

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re : Door Swap

2012-02-28 Thread Deve Krehbiel
I would argue the part where Larry said 'the worst case is a little modification' from personal experience, but I dont expect you will run into what I did. The donor doors were a full 1/4" too long for the opening in the cab!!! We are talking about cutting the door opening, pushing it back, re-weld

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: ! KEEP IT STOCK !

2012-02-22 Thread Deve Krehbiel
yup www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:08 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: ! KEEP IT STOCK ! Tha

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: New to this site.

2012-02-11 Thread Deve Krehbiel
The radiator has the year stamped in it if its the original one. :) -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ccpanel Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 10:32 AM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truc

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Wiring Questions

2011-09-23 Thread Deve Krehbiel
st them at your local parts store. On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Deve Krehbiel wrote: > ** > > > Hi guys! Long time no see. Its been 10 years since I finished the > chassis/engine on my two 1950 trucks and they are still sitting here > undone. > I had two severe back ope

[old-chevy-truck] Wiring Questions

2011-09-23 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Hi guys! Long time no see. Its been 10 years since I finished the chassis/engine on my two 1950 trucks and they are still sitting here undone. I had two severe back operations and it sorta put me out of the mood, but now that years have passed, its time to start looking at moving ahead with the pro

[old-chevy-truck] Tire Size Info Needed!

2011-06-01 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Hey guys! You will be hearing more from me from now on. My friend Pat and I are getting serious about restoring several AD's in our retirement. Since my double back fusion surgery a few years ago, things will be a little slow going, but I am hopeful that passion will win out. So anyway, I am wanti

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Goodbye Robert ,R.I.P.

2011-04-14 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Yes, my condolences as well. I lost my dad last week to alzheimers, but it being unexpected is much worse. Our thoughts and prayers. Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Cluley

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Newbe in need of help

2009-01-18 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Nate how are you doing? I know about pain, but not the way you do. I have been at home since August 4 recovering from double back fusion surgery and found out last month that one of the fusions failed, so I get to go back into surgery Jan 28. The recovery for one fusion is the same for two, so anot

RE: [old-chevy-truck] PCV revisited

2009-01-11 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Its been years now, but I put together a pcv system for one of my trucks. The info is somewhere on my web site, maybe in the how-to area. Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-tr...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jimandt

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Recovery

2008-12-24 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Nate I really feel for you. I had a double fusion surgery in early August and one of the vertebrae rejected, so they have to go back in again sometime in January. It has been very painful to say the least. I thought I had it bad until I heard about you. When you feel pain, stop what you are doing b

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Silvery powder In Oil

2004-11-02 Thread Deve Krehbiel
www.speedprint.com/Deves50 its updated believe it or not, I havent done much on my documented truck in over two years. That is NOT to say I havent moved mountains on the other AD's I have. Its just that I can test my ability (body work for example) on other projects before sharing. Ex military i

RE: [old-chevy-truck] Main Wiring Harness

2004-09-23 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Great company, lots of parts that are hard to find elsewhere. Expensive comparatively speaking, but useful. I don't buy anything without first checking with Jeff at Bowtie Bits. We have lots of other great resources tho. Most of them are on my web site. Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Ori

RE: [old-chevy-truck] sorry I've been gone...

2004-09-15 Thread Deve Krehbiel
Its impossible to explain to most people and especially liberals in this country the feeling you get when your son graduates from basic training. When you see him for the first time in 6 weeks, he is a totally different person. He goes in as a child, and comes out a tall standing, proud man who has