Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-06-01 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, qutic development wrote: As 014 and 022 have signed packages, nobody else than OmniTi can build packages for these, right? Is it not possible for users to add a publisher and then that publisher acts as an overlay, with updated packages from the higher-priority publisher

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-06-01 Thread Tobias Oetiker
Hi Andy I have no 'power' but I have created omniosorg on github and invited you qutic theo robert dan ... so depending on what happens in the next few days we could just start updating a copy of omnios there ... so that nothing gets lost until things settel in a new rythem ... cheers tobi --

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-06-01 Thread Andy Fiddaman
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, qutic development wrote: ; Hi Theo, ; ; that is a word! ; ; > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. I'll pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and 022. As security issues with packages in core arise, I will upda

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-06-01 Thread qutic development
Hi Theo, that is a word! > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. I'll > pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and 022. > As security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the build > system, re-roll the packages and pu

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-16 Thread Krzysztof Grzempa
I agree, github is the best place where the community should be gathered around. Topicbox looks good also.. 2017-05-16 5:13 GMT+02:00 Bryan Allen : > I'm happy to stick mailing lists under the same umbrella that the illumos > and SmartOS lists use. > > Lists would be f...@lists.omnios.org, under

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Bryan Allen
I'm happy to stick mailing lists under the same umbrella that the illumos and SmartOS lists use. Lists would be f...@lists.omnios.org, under Topicbox, with a searchable / discoverable web archive like https://illumos.topicbox.com[1] Cheers. -- bdha On Mon, May 15, 2017, at 17:09, Theo Schlossn

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Theo Schlossnagle
Couldn't agree more about github; it's where community happens. If an org is started to manage assets, and it can likely pay for hosting out of its operating budget. On May 15, 2017 5:47 PM, "Tobias Oetiker" wrote: > - On May 15, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Michael Rasmussen m...@miras.org wrote: > >

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Mon, 15 May 2017 23:38:20 +0200 (CEST) Tobias Oetiker wrote: > - On May 15, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Michael Rasmussen m...@miras.org wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 May 2017 22:46:10 +0200 > > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 > >> Michael Rasmussen wrote: > >>

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Tobias Oetiker
- On May 15, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Michael Rasmussen m...@miras.org wrote: > On Mon, 15 May 2017 22:46:10 +0200 > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > >> On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 >> Michael Rasmussen wrote: >> >> > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any >> > other

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Mon, 15 May 2017 22:46:10 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any > > other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to have. > > > I have found

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Mon, 15 May 2017 17:08:18 -0400 Theo Schlossnagle wrote: > My understanding from Robert's email was that they'd hand over all that > stuff. But a "community" isn't a legal entity to which someone can hand > something over. I'm doing some research on governance models that would > most-closel

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Theo Schlossnagle
My understanding from Robert's email was that they'd hand over all that stuff. But a "community" isn't a legal entity to which someone can hand something over. I'm doing some research on governance models that would most-closely emulate community ownership. On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Micha

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Dan McDonald
> On May 15, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 > Michael Rasmussen wrote: > >> To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any >> other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to have. >> > I have found out t

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:37:35 +0200 Michael Rasmussen wrote: > To follow example I will commit myself to maintain the wiki and any > other web based infrastructure the project may need and choose to have. > I have found out that Omniti holds the domain name omnios.org. Will Omniti consider handin

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Peter Tribble
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Theo Schlossnagle < theo.schlossna...@circonus.com> wrote: > I have to chime in. Communities aren't built on money; they are built on > time. I think there has been an unhealthy focus on how much money people > are willing to pledge without considering who would e

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Andries Annema
It seems indeed you did shake things up a bit. To give my two cents in this: I am happy to help! Although I am not a developer - sysadmin at most, and even that is not my *primary* everyday function - I am always eager to learn. My current state/skills regarding OmniOS (since 2014): * am run

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Schweiss, Chip
I just added my potential in paid support for OmniOS being maintained professionally. This spreadsheet does reveal the realities OmniTI was facing with OmniOS. My guess is they were never close to turning a profit on it. It saddens me to see such a well developed and maintained distribution go

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Michael Mounteney
It seems my rather pessimistic assessment has started something going. We have several volunteers making offers of various skills and I'm happy to join them. My skills are: * Programming in C, C++, Java, Bash but not PHP. * Home-user level sysadmin (configure dovecot, DHCP, NAT, KVM etc. witho

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Andy Fiddaman
On Sun, 14 May 2017, Theo Schlossnagle wrote: ; I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. ; I'll pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and ; 022. As security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the ; build system, re-roll t

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-15 Thread Krzysztof Grzempa
I work as a devops, having various scripting languages skills (python php javascript), basics im c++ (learningowej proces)and 10+ years expierience with Linux. Then i discovered solaris 8,9,10,11 and it suprised me with old features which Linux was just starting. Anyway, i have no expierience on p

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-14 Thread Tobi Oetiker
I will also be glad to help with packaging. O+P is already running a repo on pkg.oetiker.ch but we have not widely publicized it. My main use of omnios is as a server for kvm an lxzones, so I would also be willing to help with porting updates from joyent unfortunately I have no experience wit

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-14 Thread Natxo Asenjo
hi, On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Volker A. Brandt wrote: > Theo Schlossnagle writes: > > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. > I'll > > pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and > 022. As > > security issues with packages in c

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-14 Thread Volker A. Brandt
Theo Schlossnagle writes: > I was hoping not to be the first, but I will attempt to lead by example. I'll > pledge my time to do required security package publications on 014 and 022. As > security issues with packages in core arise, I will update the build system, > re-roll the packages and publis

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-14 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Sun, 14 May 2017 19:10:32 -0400 Theo Schlossnagle wrote: > > Communities are built on collective need and contributed time. It comes > down to volunteering. I have yet to see anyone pledge time to do work, and > from my perspective that is what is truly needed here. > This is not entirely tr

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-14 Thread Theo Schlossnagle
I have to chime in. Communities aren't built on money; they are built on time. I think there has been an unhealthy focus on how much money people are willing to pledge without considering who would even be willing to accept that money for their time. Those willing might not require payment at all.

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-14 Thread Michael Mounteney
On Sun, 14 May 2017 17:33:56 +0200 Krzysztof Grzempa wrote: > So, where are we at the moment? Any conclusions? Decisions? Plans? TBH it's not looking good. https://gitter.im/PostOmniOS/Lobby has reached no firm conclusion. We certainly are well-short of a group of qualified and committed peopl

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-14 Thread Krzysztof Grzempa
So, where are we at the moment? Any conclusions? Decisions? Plans? regards 2017-05-13 0:20 GMT+02:00 Joseph Boren : > Just wanted to add my thanks to Dan for the great support, and best wishes > for the future. > > Cheers! > > > Joseph Boren > > IT Specialist > > +c: 208.891.2128 <(208)%20891-2

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-12 Thread Joseph Boren
Just wanted to add my thanks to Dan for the great support, and best wishes for the future. Cheers! Joseph Boren IT Specialist +c: 208.891.2128 + 416 S 8th St., Boise, ID 83702 + ___ OmniOS-discuss mailing list OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com http:/

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-12 Thread Tobi Oetiker
uch we could raise https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IyAI950a-JkPgRRLSezZm9-Rt8HkfO_nIkubd_m8d_0 > Regards, > > Marion > > > >> From: Krzysztof Grzempa >> Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 20:18:22 +0200 >> To: >> Subject: Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-12 Thread Marion Hakanson
nity. Would 100 be enough? 200? Regards, Marion > From: Krzysztof Grzempa > Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 20:18:22 +0200 > To: > Subject: Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community > > Thank you Dan, for the best Illumos distro ever! > I hope that the transfer to the community d

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-12 Thread Krzysztof Grzempa
Thank you Dan, for the best Illumos distro ever! I hope that the transfer to the community driven model will come true, and I hope you still will be the part of it. Now it is up to us, the 'community' to decide if we want to keep this great project alive or let if go I'm ready to participate so

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-12 Thread Jim Klimov
On May 12, 2017 6:07:01 PM GMT+03:00, Dan McDonald wrote: >Dear OmniOS Community, > >For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS >Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS a nice platform to use for >solving problems, whether they be Home-Data-Center, service-hosting

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-12 Thread Frank Pittel
Dan, I see some people beat me to thanking you for all your hard work and support that you've provided to individuals in getting their issues with omnios resolved. I know you won't have any issue with finding gainful employment going forward. I also hope that you find the time to remain a part of

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-12 Thread Richard Elling
Thanks for everything Dan, you’ve been a terrific asset to the OmniOS community! — richard > On May 12, 2017, at 8:07 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: > > Dear OmniOS Community, > > For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS > Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS a

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-12 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Hi Dan, Best of luck and thanks for all your efforts. On Fri, 12 May 2017 17:58:58 +0200 "Andries Annema" wrote: > > You really did a marvelous job. I sincerely hope that we, as a community, > can and will keep the ball rolling and make it even better ;-) > That said, it would be awesome if yo

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-12 Thread Andries Annema
@lists.omniti.com Subject: Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community Outstanding job Dan! On 5/12/17 10:07 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: > Dear OmniOS Community, > > For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS

Re: [OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-12 Thread Linda Kateley
Outstanding job Dan! On 5/12/17 10:07 AM, Dan McDonald wrote: Dear OmniOS Community, For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS a nice platform to use for solving problems, whether they be Home-Data-Center, service-host

[OmniOS-discuss] To the OmniOS Community

2017-05-12 Thread Dan McDonald
Dear OmniOS Community, For the past 3+ years, it has been my pleasure and honor to be "OmniOS Engineering" at OmniTI. I hope I made OmniOS a nice platform to use for solving problems, whether they be Home-Data-Center, service-hosting box, network filer, or other uses. As you saw, OmniTI is tur