Congratulations to Frank Peters (fpe)

We extend our congratulations to Frank Peters (fpe), who was recently voted in as a Committer and PPMC-member for the project. Frank was noted for his enthusiasm in the area of user documentation. - The Apache OpenOffice PPMC

Re: Any interest in meeting in Berlin July 13th?

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Sorry Rob, I missed this mail. As you know I will be there and I would > love to touch base with you and any others who will be present. I > haven't booked my flights and hotel yet, but will mail you offlist > once I have my details settled. un

Re: Any interest in meeting in Berlin July 13th?

Hey Ross I'll be there also, and I would also be interested in touching base all involved in the Apache effort. Andrew On 7/7/2011 4:43 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: Sorry Rob, I missed this mail. As you know I will be there and I would love to touch base with you and any others who will be present.

Brazilian users list

Hi, The Brazilian community [1] still maintains a minimum structure of support to users of OOo/Libo. I forwarded the questions that come to help single list in Brazil [2]. But, this week someone from the list of TDF did not like these referrals. Then I ask if we can start thinking about structurin

Re: Any interest in meeting in Berlin July 13th?

Sorry Rob, I missed this mail. As you know I will be there and I would love to touch base with you and any others who will be present. I haven't booked my flights and hotel yet, but will mail you offlist once I have my details settled. unfortunately I will probably not get there until the 14th. Ho

Re: What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

On 8 Jul 2011, at 00:04, Jerry Kemp wrote: > One of the reasons I have stuck with OO and have not looked further into > LO was the fact that binaries were not provided for my preferred > desktop, Solaris. Specifically, I primarily use either OpenSolaris > Nevada or OpenIndiana. > > A (more than

RE: [DISCUSS] Creation of ooo-security list (was Re: OpenOffice Security Vulnerability Reporting)

So perhaps the prudent thing to do is create the list and find out we don't need it, rather than not have it and have occasion to regret it. +1 -Original Message- From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 07:00 To: Rob Weir Cc: securityt...@openoffice.org

Re: What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > One of the reasons I have stuck with OO and have not looked further into > LO was the fact that binaries were not provided for my preferred > desktop, Solaris.  Specifically, I primarily use either OpenSolaris > Nevada or OpenIndiana. > > A (more

Re: What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

One of the reasons I have stuck with OO and have not looked further into LO was the fact that binaries were not provided for my preferred desktop, Solaris. Specifically, I primarily use either OpenSolaris Nevada or OpenIndiana. A (more than high level but not completely extensive) search of the

Re: Easy tasks and mentoring

On 7 July 2011 16:40, eric b wrote: > Le 7 juil. 11 à 17:30, Ross Gardler a écrit : ... >> Finally, I'd like to hear from the OOo education project. > > > I'm there. just ask  :-) > > >> Are there any existing programmes in the Oo.o community that we should >> work with? >> > > I'm not sure to f

Re: Future of OOo

On 7 July 2011 22:51, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Asked for a screenshot? Here you are: ... > http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:SO52_Desktopintegration.png&filetimestamp=20090521112446 Perfect, thank you. Ross

RE: Future of OOo

Ross, You might find some crisp talking points in the status report as well, since that text is being reviewed and will presumably be signed-off by a mentor before you embark for Berlin. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] Sent: Thursda

Re: Future of OOo

On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:55:08 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: ... I assume you'll cover what Incubation at Apache is all about?  The tasks necessary to graduate form the backbone of our medium-term plan. Absolutely. The main body of the session will be about The Apache Way and how incubation helps

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:45, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: >> ... >> One of the things LibreOffice pretends to do, for >> example, is to remove Java as a dependency, a move >> that is not very attractive to Apache developers, I think. > > Bah. I'd *lov

Re: Future of OOo

Asked for a screenshot? Here you are: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarOffice http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:SO52_Desktopintegration.png&filetimestamp=20090521112446 And already in German. ;-) I think for the license it should be OK when you name the source. When I remember

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:45, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: >... > One of the things LibreOffice pretends to do, for > example, is to remove Java as a dependency, a move > that is not very attractive to Apache developers, I think. Bah. I'd *love* to get rid of a JVM dependency :-) (and I'm certainly n

Re: Future of OOo

I want to make it clear that I have absolutely no intention of talking about the past in this presentation. I am not a part of OOo's history, other than being a Star Office user way back when it had a browser, mail client and calendar in addition to the current tools in OOo. I remember a Star Offic

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On 7 July 2011 18:29, Mathias Bauer wrote: > > > (1) removing code that was not compiled at all > (2) removing code that was compiled, but not used > (3) removing superfluous comment lines > (4) translating comments from German to English > (5) "real" code work: removing duplicated classes, simpl

Re: Future of OOo

On 7/7/2011 16:52, Simon Phipps wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Pedro F. Giffuniwrote: I know you want to be politically correct and don't want to alienate other potential developers, but the undeniable facts are: The fact we could easily discuss this at length without ever agreeing

Re: Regarding the PPMC's Private List

Hopefully we've discussed this enough this week that people will start to learn the rule of "it should always be on the dev@ list unless there's a specific reason to use the private@ list", and that will be sufficient for the time being. On 7/7/2011 2:01 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 201

Re: Future of OOo

On 7 July 2011 12:58, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >> As this list knows i will be speaking at the 6th ODF Plugfest on what >> it means to OOo to be in the Apache Incubator. Since I am only a >> mentor and not a committer my presentation will focus on t

Re: Future of OOo

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > I know you want to be politically correct and don't want > to alienate other potential developers, but the undeniable > facts are: > The fact we could easily discuss this at length without ever agreeing what the "undeniable facts" are (w

Re: What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

--- On Thu, 7/7/11, theUser BL wrote: ... > > Hi! > What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork? > > Currently there are two point of views what a OOo fork is > and what not. > Not that it matters ... but if you want an objective opinion about who forked ... ask Oracle. cheers,

Re: Future of OOo

--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Simon Phipps wrote: ... > > The original OpenOffice.org project is no more and that > there are now two projects taking the code forward. Seems > easy enough to understand and gives no scope for arguing > about who is to blame for what. And uses neither the word > "split" or "

Re: Future of OOo

apologies - bad form on my part. Andrew On 7/7/2011 11:19 AM, Andrew Rist wrote: I know it's soap opera stuff - but here, a Simon slap-down Oracle Email Signature Logo Andrew Rist | Interoperability Architect Oracle Corporate Architecture Group Redwood Shores, CA | 650.506.9847 On 7/7/20

Re: DEV300 vs OOO340 (was: fetch-all-cws.sh)

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 13:57, Mathias Bauer wrote: > Hi Greg, > > On 07.07.2011 04:09, Greg Stein wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 05:20, Mathias Bauer wrote: >>>... (guess the fact that yours is smaller is caused by me having used DEV300 and you OOO340, so some CWSes that are empty f

Re: Future of OOo

I know it's soap opera stuff - but here, a Simon slap-down Oracle Email Signature Logo Andrew Rist | Interoperability Architect Oracle Corporate Architecture Group Redwood Shores, CA | 650.506.9847 On 7/7/2011 9:10 AM, IngridvdM wrote: Hi Simon, Am 07.07.2011 17:26, schrieb Simon Phipps:

Re: Regarding the PPMC's Private List

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > -1 on that part.  Please God, treat us like adults here. > The analogy I had in mind was to official government committees and boards in my state, where they are required to conduct their business in public. But they have the ability to

Re: DEV300 vs OOO340 (was: fetch-all-cws.sh)

Hi Greg, On 07.07.2011 04:09, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 05:20, Mathias Bauer wrote: >>... >>> (guess the fact that yours is smaller is caused by me having used DEV300 >>> and you OOO340, so some CWSes that are empty for you have content for me) >> >> Indeed I got more empty cws

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

On 06.07.2011 19:08, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 16:04, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: >>> Moin, >>> >>> On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote: >>... >>> Do we really want to have code in the svn repo that will never be used? >>> The alt

Re: DITA for Doc?

On 07.07.2011 18:52, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > > --- On Thu, 7/7/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: > > ... >> >> The macro package is available as an extension that can be >> installed with the extension manager. It also contains the >> xslt that is installed as an export filter. >> > > Just wonder

Re: What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:01 PM, theUser BL wrote: > > Hi! > What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork? > So what is the advantage of your OpenOffice.org fork? What will Apache OOo do > better then LibreOffice? Off the top of my head and AFAIK: * (At least) Apple's and Microsoft's a

Re: [securityteam] Re: OpenOffice Security Vulnerability Reporting

Hi Simon, all, On 07.07.11 16:25, Simon Phipps wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Rob Weir mailto:apa...@robweir.com>> wrote: Also, if securityt...@openoffice.org has a list of other security contacts with whom they routinely share pre-publ

Re: [securityteam] OpenOffice Security Vulnerability Reporting

Hi Rob, all, On 07.07.11 15:48, Rob Weir wrote: Bringing the threads together on the public list so we can (hopefully) quickly discuss. As I understand it now, the OpenOffice.org currently directs visitors to report vulnerability reports to securityt...@openoffice.org. This address is currently

RE: Future of OOo

+1 What matters now is the task before us and how we sustain a community of interests. We must find where are common purposes bind us together, not more reasons for alienation. There are concrete differences between the two efforts, those are not likely to change, and we must find alignments

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On 07.07.2011 18:06, Ian Lynch wrote: > I suppose it also depends on what you mean by code clean up. If for example > the LibO people had identified say 2 meg of redundant code, ie stuff that > doesn't do anything useful and they removed it and know it has not broken > anything else it seems to me

RE: Regarding the PPMC's Private List

-1 on that part. Please God, treat us like adults here. -Original Message- From: rabas...@gmail.com [mailto:rabas...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Rob Weir Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 08:45 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Regarding the PPMC's Private List [ ... ] 2) I wonder wheth

Re: Regarding the PPMC's Private List

Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 13:16:39 -0400: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Shahaf > wrote: > > Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:44:33 -0400: > >> 2) I wonder whether it would be a good idea, at least while the PPMC > >> is still growing and we're getting up to speed

Re: Regarding the PPMC's Private List

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:44:33 -0400: >> 2) I wonder whether it would be a good idea, at least while the PPMC >> is still growing and we're getting up to speed, for all notes to the >> ooo-private list to be prefaced by a sen

Re: DITA for Doc?

--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... > > The macro package is available as an extension that can be > installed with the extension manager. It also contains the > xslt that is installed as an export filter. > Just wondering .. Is this where we use saxon? AFAICT, it's not a problem li

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Simon Phipps wrote: ... > > Hence the desire to see the work that has already been done > on LO contributed here, rather than a related-but-different > cleanup. > All these contributions are hypothetical ... at least until we have a repository of our own. And then, even afte

Re: DITA for Doc?

On 07.07.2011 14:59, TJ Frazier wrote: > On 7/7/2011 07:26, Mathias Bauer wrote: >> Moin, >> >> I know how the help files where written at Sun/Oracle: the writers took >> Writer for the text and used a set of basic macros to put some markup >> into the files. Then they used an xslt to convert the

Re: Regarding the PPMC's Private List

Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:44:33 -0400: > 2) I wonder whether it would be a good idea, at least while the PPMC > is still growing and we're getting up to speed, for all notes to the > ooo-private list to be prefaced by a sentence explaining why the > private list is needed for that m

Re: Future of OOo

On 7 Jul 2011, at 17:10, IngridvdM wrote: > Am 07.07.2011 17:26, schrieb Simon Phipps: >> >> On 7 Jul 2011, at 16:03, IngridvdM wrote: >> >>> Am 07.07.2011 12:56, schrieb Donald Harbison: >>> [...] The end of a corporate controlled project, and the beginning of two new open sour

Re: Regarding the PPMC's Private List

Am 07/07/2011 05:44 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: We've received some criticism from our Mentors for using the private list too eagerly. I'm certainly guilty in that. I think the key thing is that the private list is for discussing matters that require privacy, but that this does not include discussing

Re: Future of OOo

Hi Simon, Am 07.07.2011 17:26, schrieb Simon Phipps: On 7 Jul 2011, at 16:03, IngridvdM wrote: Hi Donald, Ross, all, Am 07.07.2011 12:56, schrieb Donald Harbison: [...] The end of a corporate controlled project, and the beginning of two new open source projects [...] I would like to chang

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On 7 July 2011 16:05, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > >> > > >> > On 7 Jul 2011, at 13:17, Mathias Bauer wrote: > >> >> > >> >> This would a

Re: What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

Am 07.07.11 17:01, schrieb theUser BL: Hi! What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork? Currently there are two point of views what a OOo fork is and what not. If you look at the trademark and logo, then LibreOffice is the fork. But if you look at all other things, like where all t

Re: Regarding the PPMC's Private List

+1 On Jul 7, 2011 11:45 AM, "Rob Weir" wrote: > We've received some criticism from our Mentors for using the private > list too eagerly. I'm certainly guilty in that. I think the key > thing is that the private list is for discussing matters that require > privacy, but that this does not include

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

On Jul 7, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > >> I also think that mailing lists are not the best medium to "speak" with >> marketing and news people outside. A single and easy to reach webpage is >> much better. >> > > yes...the Blog

Regarding the PPMC's Private List

We've received some criticism from our Mentors for using the private list too eagerly. I'm certainly guilty in that. I think the key thing is that the private list is for discussing matters that require privacy, but that this does not include discussing procedures around privacy and confidentiali

Re: Future of OOo

Am 07.07.2011 17:03, schrieb IngridvdM: Let me add a small correction to myself: The creation of LibreOffice/TDF has happend already last year in 2010. To be on the safe side one should better say: LibreOffice/TDF has been announced already last year in 2010. I am not totally sure about the

Re: Easy tasks and mentoring

Hi, Le 7 juil. 11 à 17:30, Ross Gardler a écrit : Over in another thread there has been some discussion of "easy tasks" being identified to help newcomers find their way in the OOo project. In the ASF the Community Development project works to make ASF projects a little more accessible.

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > >> Am 07/07/2011 11:25 AM, schrieb Graham Lauder: >> >>  On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 08:34 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Graham Lauder** wrote:

Re: OpenOffice Security Vulnerability Reporting

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/07/2011 14:48, Rob Weir wrote: > Bringing the threads together on the public list so we can (hopefully) > quickly discuss. > > As I understand it now, the OpenOffice.org currently directs visitors > to report vulnerability reports to securityt..

Re: DITA for Doc?

On Jul 7, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > Yes, that's a good question in terms of who the primary writers of this kind > of help content are, and if they're participating in this thread. But it > certainly sounds like there's enough positive feedback (and it seems Rob can > draw on so

Easy tasks and mentoring

Over in another thread there has been some discussion of "easy tasks" being identified to help newcomers find their way in the OOo project. In the ASF the Community Development project works to make ASF projects a little more accessible. Typically it's very scary for a newcomer, regardless of thei

Re: Future of OOo

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:03 AM, IngridvdM wrote: > Hi Donald, Ross, all, > > Am 07.07.2011 12:56, schrieb Donald Harbison: > [...] >> >> The end of a corporate controlled project, and the beginning of two new >> open >> source projects > > [...] > > I would like to change this part of the descrip

Re: Future of OOo

On 7 Jul 2011, at 16:03, IngridvdM wrote: > Hi Donald, Ross, all, > > Am 07.07.2011 12:56, schrieb Donald Harbison: > [...] >> The end of a corporate controlled project, and the beginning of two new open >> source projects > [...] > > I would like to change this part of the description. I think

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 07/07/2011 11:25 AM, schrieb Graham Lauder: > > On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 08:34 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Graham Lauder** >>> wrote: >>> >>> >> >> We had some earlier discussions on this. Personally, I

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 08:34 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Graham Lauder >wrote: > > > > > > > > We had some earlier discussions on this. Personally, I was proposing > > > > that we take the opportunity to simp

Re: What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

Don't forget the child prodigies that have been working on it since they were 5. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:01 AM, theUser BL wrote: >> >> Hi! >> What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork? >> >> Currently there are two point of view

Re: What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:01 AM, theUser BL wrote: > > Hi! > What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork? > > Currently there are two point of views what a OOo fork is and what not. > > If you look at the trademark and logo, then LibreOffice is the fork. > > But if you look at all othe

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: >> > >> > On 7 Jul 2011, at 13:17, Mathias Bauer wrote: >> >> >> >> This would at least require that someone having done that at LO woul

Re: Future of OOo

Hi Donald, Ross, all, Am 07.07.2011 12:56, schrieb Donald Harbison: [...] The end of a corporate controlled project, and the beginning of two new open source projects [...] I would like to change this part of the description. I think it should be made absolute clear to the public that the spl

What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

Hi! What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork? Currently there are two point of views what a OOo fork is and what not. If you look at the trademark and logo, then LibreOffice is the fork. But if you look at all other things, like where all the old OOo developer are working and so

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On 7 Jul 2011, at 13:17, Mathias Bauer wrote: >> >> This would at least require that someone having done that at LO would >> contribute a patch for OOo. Having a patch could help to do the removal >> in the same way as in LO. That could make

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > > > On 7 Jul 2011, at 13:17, Mathias Bauer wrote: > >> > >> This would at least require that someone having done that at LO would > >> contribute a patch for OOo. Having a patch could help t

Re: OpenOffice Security Vulnerability Reporting

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > Also, if securityt...@openoffice.org has a list of other security > contacts with whom they routinely share pre-public disclosure security > information, we'd appreciate having that list, sent to our private > list: ooo-priv...@incubator.apache.or

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

http://blogs.apache.org/ Any PPMC member can simply ask infrastructure@ to create a blog for the podling (I think that's the right list), specifying the preferred name for the blog. The PPMC should manage a list of PPMC members who have write access to the blog, and ensure that comments get

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On 7 July 2011 14:59, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: ... >> We may instead want to encourage new Apache volunteers who want to join the >> development activity but need to learn how everything works to create >> patches that mirror the cleanup at LO, as

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > I'm still in the committer pending box, as soon as that is actioned I'll > get to grips with the CMS as well.  The initial homepage will be > probably more informational than guiding people to downloads.  We could > probably go with familia

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On 7 Jul 2011, at 13:17, Mathias Bauer wrote: >> >> This would at least require that someone having done that at LO would >> contribute a patch for OOo. Having a patch could help to do the removal >> in the same way as in LO. That could make

OpenOffice Security Vulnerability Reporting

Bringing the threads together on the public list so we can (hopefully) quickly discuss. As I understand it now, the OpenOffice.org currently directs visitors to report vulnerability reports to securityt...@openoffice.org. This address is currently being monitored. And at Apache we ask vulnerabili

Re: DITA for Doc?

On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 07:52 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: > > Moin, > > > > I know how the help files where written at Sun/Oracle: the writers took > > Writer for the text and used a set of basic macros to put some markup > > into the files. Then the

Re: DITA for Doc?

Yes, that's a good question in terms of who the primary writers of this kind of help content are, and if they're participating in this thread. But it certainly sounds like there's enough positive feedback (and it seems Rob can draw on some experience around DITA) that it's definitely worth writ

Re: DITA for Doc?

On 7/7/2011 07:26, Mathias Bauer wrote: Moin, I know how the help files where written at Sun/Oracle: the writers took Writer for the text and used a set of basic macros to put some markup into the files. Then they used an xslt to convert the document into the xhp format. I can't speak for the h

Re: DITA for Doc?

Absolutely agree, just checking we're not getting ahead of ourselves here... On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: > Hi Simon, > > that's the question that needs to be answered. So far we just discuss > from a technical POV. > > Nevertheless it should be seen that currently we hav

Re: DITA for Doc?

Hi Simon, that's the question that needs to be answered. So far we just discuss from a technical POV. Nevertheless it should be seen that currently we have nothing except a home brewn set of macros that never has been used outside of the Hamburg lab (AFAIK). Whoever will be the people to create h

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On 7 Jul 2011, at 13:17, Mathias Bauer wrote: > > This would at least require that someone having done that at LO would > contribute a patch for OOo. Having a patch could help to do the removal > in the same way as in LO. That could make sure that afterwards the code > bases became more similar a

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On 7 July 2011 13:17, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... >> One thing would be to collaborate to remove any redundant code. I have heard >> that the LibO people have already worked on this so removing code should be >> something that is not too controversial license-wise and could filter up >> stream from

Re: DEV300 vs OOO340 (was: fetch-all-cws.sh)

On 07/07/2011 04:09 AM, Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 05:20, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... (guess the fact that yours is smaller is caused by me having used DEV300 and you OOO340, so some CWSes that are empty for you have content for me) Indeed I got more empty cws because I checked ag

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On 7 July 2011 13:10, Mathias Bauer wrote: > On 07.07.2011 13:09, Ross Gardler wrote: > >> On 6 July 2011 23:51, Andrew Rist wrote: >>> >>> To date the LibreOffice crew has taken the effort to merge in changes from >>> the OOo code line, for each release. >>> The most obvious and best way to coll

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On 07.07.2011 13:25, Ian Lynch wrote: > On 7 July 2011 12:09, Ross Gardler wrote: > >> On 6 July 2011 23:51, Andrew Rist wrote: >> > >> > To date the LibreOffice crew has taken the effort to merge in changes >> from >> > the OOo code line, for each release. >> > The most obvious and best way to

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

Am 07/07/2011 11:25 AM, schrieb Graham Lauder: On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 08:34 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Graham Lauderwrote: We had some earlier discussions on this. Personally, I was proposing that we take the opportunity to simplify. For example, right now we

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On 07.07.2011 13:09, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 6 July 2011 23:51, Andrew Rist wrote: >> >> To date the LibreOffice crew has taken the effort to merge in changes from >> the OOo code line, for each release. >> The most obvious and best way to collaborate in the future is to write good >> code, and

Re: Future of OOo

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > As this list knows i will be speaking at the 6th ODF Plugfest on what > it means to OOo to be in the Apache Incubator. Since I am only a > mentor and not a committer my presentation will focus on the Apache > Way rather than the future of OOo.

Re: DITA for Doc?

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: > Moin, > > I know how the help files where written at Sun/Oracle: the writers took > Writer for the text and used a set of basic macros to put some markup > into the files. Then they used an xslt to convert the document into the > xhp format. >

Re: DITA for Doc?

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Frank Peters wrote: > Rob, > > Would it be worth considering using DITA for the documentation/help? > > [...] > >> I'd like to argue for the advantages of DITA as a source format here. >> I can probably find some volunteers to help enabled this.  The >> Symphony tea

Re: DITA for Doc?

Moin, I know how the help files where written at Sun/Oracle: the writers took Writer for the text and used a set of basic macros to put some markup into the files. Then they used an xslt to convert the document into the xhp format. I can't speak for the help writers, but most probably that isn't

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On 7 July 2011 12:09, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 6 July 2011 23:51, Andrew Rist wrote: > > > > To date the LibreOffice crew has taken the effort to merge in changes > from > > the OOo code line, for each release. > > The most obvious and best way to collaborate in the future is to write > good > >

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

On 6 July 2011 23:51, Andrew Rist wrote: > > To date the LibreOffice crew has taken the effort to merge in changes from > the OOo code line, for each release. > The most obvious and best way to collaborate in the future is to write good > code, and make it worth their while to integrate it into LO

Re: DITA for Doc?

Is this something that the committers actually planning to do the work want? It's not been clear to me which of the voices of this thread are among their number. Cheers S. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > Would it be worth considering using DITA for the documentation/help?

Re: [DISCUSS] Creation of ooo-security List

On 07.07.2011 02:21, Greg Stein wrote: > I don't believe that we need our own security address since I doubt > we'll have that many *incoming* issues. Those reports can go to > secur...@apache.org, and that team will forward them to the PPMC. "Many" is a quantity that is hard to compare with ;-).

Re: Future of OOo

Hi Ross, Let's ensure an emphasis on this statement from the Rationale: "ASF would enable corporate, non-profit, and volunteer stakeholders to contribute code in a collaborative fashion." The ASF's inclusive approach combined with the the recognition of LibreOffice community as an important an

Re: DITA for Doc?

Rob, Would it be worth considering using DITA for the documentation/help? [...] I'd like to argue for the advantages of DITA as a source format here. I can probably find some volunteers to help enabled this. The Symphony team uses DITA for doc/help, and we've already done the work of converti

Future of OOo

As this list knows i will be speaking at the 6th ODF Plugfest on what it means to OOo to be in the Apache Incubator. Since I am only a mentor and not a committer my presentation will focus on the Apache Way rather than the future of OOo. My intention is to communicate the open and, in particular, t

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

On 06.07.2011 19:12, Greg Stein wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 07:50, Michael Stahl wrote: On 05.07.2011 11:16, Herbert Duerr wrote: If the goal is to just merge the outstanding CWSs into trunk I'd suggest to stay with hg, merge all good CWSs into trunk and start the apache-ooo SVN repository

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh

On 06.07.2011 18:35, Herbert Duerr wrote: > there is another tool, a HG extension called hg-git, which can > convert HG bookmarks to git branches. > http://hg-git.github.com/ Great find! I was already brushing up my python and mercurial internals skills to extend hg-fast-export's export_commi

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 08:34 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > > > > We had some earlier discussions on this. Personally, I was proposing > > > that we take the opportunity to simplify. For example, right now > > > we're doing all the work on ooo

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