Re: Too many lists

2011-12-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 12/15/11 7:36 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 15 December 2011 04:33, Raphael Bircherr.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 15.12.11 00:26, schrieb Ross Gardler: I'm really concerned about the tendency of the AOO project to keep proposing and seriously considering new lists (well that is probably over

Re: My new OOo-Dev is aviable for download

2011-12-15 Thread Raphael Bircher
Ok, I just updated the page. I added the information to the Linux buildboot, and put a testbook on it. so Users can provide feedback :-) Question at all: Is sameone able to provide Windows builds? Greetings Raphael Am 14.12.11 17:36, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: Hi Raphael, it is great

Re: Configure and category B

2011-12-15 Thread Andre Fischer
Hi Pedro, On 14.12.2011 19:11, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Andre; Concerning beanshell, I asked the copyright owner last week and I got this answer: Sorry we have taken so long. I hope to get to this the weekend after next. In the meantime please consider the codebase to be available under the

Re: My new OOo-Dev is aviable for download

2011-12-15 Thread Zhe Liu
I can! But how? 2011/12/15 Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch: Ok, I just updated the page. I added the information to the Linux buildboot, and put a testbook on it. so Users can provide feedback :-) Question at all: Is sameone able to provide Windows builds? Greetings Raphael Am 14.12.11

Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces

2011-12-15 Thread Armin Le Grand
Hi Eric, On 14.12.2011 23:45, eric b wrote: Hello, Looks like some files are missing (svgclippathnode.hxx here) : truc:~/Desktop/apache_ooo/alg/svgreplacement/main/svgio ericb$ make -sr cp:

Re: Configure and category B

2011-12-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hi Andre; Concerning beanshell, I asked the copyright owner last week and I got this answer: Sorry we have taken so long. I hope to get to this the weekend after next. In the meantime please consider the codebase to be

Re: Too many lists

2011-12-15 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 2011-12-14 6:26 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: I'm really concerned about the tendency of the AOO project to keep proposing and seriously considering new lists (well that is probably over stating it, but I am genuinely concerned). I've tried to share this concern as well. Each time you create a

Re: Too many lists

2011-12-15 Thread Shane Curcuru
A side note: On 2011-12-14 11:33 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: ...snip... the ooo-dev@i.a.o is one of the moast active ML at the whole Apche project. For those interested in activity statistics: http://pulse.apache.org/#statistics ooo-dev@ is clearly in the top 5 most active lists at the ASF

Re: Too many lists

2011-12-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Shane Curcuru wrote on Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 09:15:02 -0500: A side note: On 2011-12-14 11:33 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: ...snip... the ooo-dev@i.a.o is one of the moast active ML at the whole Apche project. For those interested in activity statistics:

Re: Configure and category B

2011-12-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; --- Gio 15/12/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... This is a good start, and thanks, Pedro, for reaching out to them. But we'll need more than a private email to make this suitable for inclusion in default source releases. I am aware of this. I just brought the matter

Re: Configure and category B

2011-12-15 Thread Andre Fischer
On 15.12.2011 16:37, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi; --- Gio 15/12/11, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... This is a good start, and thanks, Pedro, for reaching out to them. But we'll need more than a private email to make this suitable for inclusion in default source releases. I am aware

Re: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 12/15/2011 08:39 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 12/14/11 10:31 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 12/14/2011 03:39 PM, schrieb Gianluca Turconi: Il giorno Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:26:02 -0500 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org ha scritto: The problem is a hard-to-change default is a control issue. And all

Re: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Gio 15/12/11, Marcus (OOo) ha scritto: However, I still don't see a reason to delete the b/w icons. Nothing has to be done. The bitmaps are there, they get into builds, when we have these icons colored then they become the default and the b/w can be chosen manually. Nothing dies in

Re: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 12/15/2011 08:54 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: --- Gio 15/12/11, Marcus (OOo) ha scritto: However, I still don't see a reason to delete the b/w icons. Nothing has to be done. The bitmaps are there, they get into builds, when we have these icons colored then they become the default and the b/w

Re: My new OOo-Dev is aviable for download

2011-12-15 Thread Andrew Rist
On 12/15/2011 12:39 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Ok, I just updated the page. I added the information to the Linux buildboot, and put a testbook on it. so Users can provide feedback :-) I see that. One thing me might start doing is making use of *--with-build-version* I will change the nightly

Re: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 11:54 -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- Gio 15/12/11, Marcus (OOo) ha scritto: However, I still don't see a reason to delete the b/w icons. Nothing has to be done. The bitmaps are there, they get into builds, when we have these icons colored then they become the

Re: Off topic

2011-12-15 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 06:25:50 Ross Gardler wrote: On 13 December 2011 16:16, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: This and others are actually viable business models, and we showed as much with OOo's long tenure. The issue that we had to deal with was that the owning companies

Re: Off topic

2011-12-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: snip The evidence actually reveals the complete opposite.  A vast vibrant community with all the tension and  foibles that brings with it, that produced, marketed and distributed a well featured and reliable Office

Re: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:44 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 11:54 -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- Gio 15/12/11, Marcus (OOo) ha scritto: However, I still don't see a reason to delete the b/w icons. Nothing has to be done. The bitmaps are there, they get into

Re: Off topic

2011-12-15 Thread Ian Lynch
On 15 December 2011 23:03, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: snip The evidence actually reveals the complete opposite. A vast vibrant community with all the tension and foibles that brings with it, that

Re: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 18:30 -0500, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:44 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 11:54 -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- Gio 15/12/11, Marcus (OOo) ha scritto: However, I still don't see a reason to delete the b/w icons.

Re: Off topic

2011-12-15 Thread Ross Gardler
Graham makes excellent points. I certainly did not mean to disregard the amazing things OOo achieved with respect to community. However, I believe that when my observation remains valid when it is read in the context of the specific point I was replying to. I was responding to the the claimed

Re: Off topic

2011-12-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 December 2011 23:03, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: snip The evidence actually reveals the complete opposite.  A vast vibrant

Re: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:37 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 18:30 -0500, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:44 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 11:54 -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- Gio 15/12/11, Marcus (OOo) ha scritto:

Re: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 19:09 -0500, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:37 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 18:30 -0500, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:44 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 11:54 -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

RE: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
For what it's worth, absent some sort of conformance test for ODF documents, I am not that thrilled to see OpenOffice provide icons that may suggest a bit too much alignment with the ODF specifications. (I was similarly distracted when the OOoAuthors decided to become the ODFAuthors, but what

RE: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
For what it's worth Part II: I just checked the installed-icon sizes of all the LibreOffice ones, and they do just fine without any letters or wording on them at all. (They don't have the extra-large ones that will be shown if available on Windows 7, so one of the smaller one appears at that

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/12/2011 Andrea Pescetti wrote: For the time being, we would map the existing (12) Italian lists to - A support list, ... - A project list, ... If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72 hours, I will invoke Lazy Consensus and will create a JIRA issue. In the end I see

Help! JunitTest_framework_unoapi.mk:28: *** Malformed target-specific variable definition. Stop.

2011-12-15 Thread Zhe Liu
Hi All, I always break because of the error when build on Windows XP. I mentioned before, nobody responsed on it. I did a little search and found someone also encountered the problem. I still have no clue how to resolve it. JunitTest_framework_unoapi.mk:28: *** Malformed target-specific

RE: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread drew
Howdy Dennis, On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 17:43 -0800, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: For what it's worth Part II: I just checked the installed-icon sizes of all the LibreOffice ones, and they do just fine without any letters or wording on them at all. (They don't have the extra-large ones that will

Re: Help! JunitTest_framework_unoapi.mk:28: *** Malformed target-specific variable definition. Stop.

2011-12-15 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Zhe Liu, On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:43:47AM +0800, Zhe Liu wrote: Hi All, I always break because of the error when build on Windows XP. I mentioned before, nobody responsed on it. I did a little search and found someone also encountered the problem. I still have no clue how to resolve

RE: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Ahem: The names OASIS, OpenDocument, Open Document Format and ODF are trademarks of OASIS, the owner and developer of this specification, and should only be used to refer to the organization and its official outputs. OASIS welcomes reference to, and implementation and use of,

Re: Help! JunitTest_framework_unoapi.mk:28: *** Malformed target-specific variable definition. Stop.

2011-12-15 Thread Zhe Liu
Thanks for your patch. It works. Is there a bug in our Bugzilla to indicate the problem? 2011/12/16 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org: Hi Zhe Liu, On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:43:47AM +0800, Zhe Liu wrote: Hi All, I always break because of the error when build on Windows XP. I

Re: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects)

2011-12-15 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:38 AM, Dwayne Bailey wrote: On 2011-12-13 23:49, Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2011 12:39 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Pootle (was Re:

Re: Help! JunitTest_framework_unoapi.mk:28: *** Malformed target-specific variable definition. Stop.

2011-12-15 Thread Zhe Liu
Opened a bug on Bugzilla. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118682 2011/12/16 Zhe Liu aliu...@gmail.com: Thanks for your patch. It works. Is there a bug in our Bugzilla to indicate the problem? 2011/12/16 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org: Hi Zhe Liu, On Fri, Dec 16,

[user-docs] Anything happening re end-user docs?

2011-12-15 Thread Jean Weber
Now that the migration to Apache is well advanced and builds are becoming available, my mind turns again to the area in which I could potentially contribute something: end-user documentation. We discussed this some months ago, with various suggestions for the type of docs needed and the