Re: [PROPOSAL] Set up of ooo-dev-ja at incubator.apache.org

Hi Kazunari-san, all 2011/9/8 Marcus (OOo) > Am 09/08/2011 02:26 PM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: > >> >> [...] > >> Which do you prefer, "ooo-general-xx at incubator.apache.org" or >> "ooo-dev-xx at incubator.apache.org"? >> (xx is ISO language code) >> >> Thanks, >> khirano >> > > +1 for "ooo-ge

Re: [PROPOSAL] Set up of ooo-dev-ja at incubator.apache.org

Hi Dave, thank you very much for asking ;-) Am 8. September 2011 19:59 schrieb Dave Fisher : > Hi Manfred, > > The German I learned in school 35 years ago is enough for me to know that it > would be polite if you would provide a rough translation. > it was really addressed to the german speaking

Impress ;-) about AOOo

Hi, I am invited to a presentation of AOOo in southwest Germany, later this month. Is there already a presentation of AOOo about people, goals, strategies, roadmap, etc.? -- ## Manfred Reiter

Re: Impress ;-) about AOOo

00 schrieb "Rob Weir" : > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Manfred A. Reiter > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am invited to a presentation of AOOo in southwest > > Germany, later this month. > > > > Is there already a presentation of AOOo about > >

Re: Impress ;-) about AOOo

Hi Andor, 2011/10/11 Andor E > Hi, > may I ask where you will do this presentation? Is it open to the > public? I am in Southern Germany and would be interested. > > http://www.lug-ld.de/linux-info-tag/ M.

Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

+1 -- ## Manfred Reiter

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

Hi Rob, Kazunari-san, Marcus, * 2011/10/22 Marcus (OOo) > > Am 10/22/2011 02:33 AM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: >> >> Hi Rob and all, >> >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Rob Weir  wrote: >>> >>> So these are user lists.  Will we want language-specific translation >>> and localization lists at som

Re: How to handle the native language lists?

Hi Marcus, * 2011/10/22 Marcus (OOo) : > Am 10/22/2011 12:16 PM, schrieb Manfred A. Reiter: >> >> Hi Rob, Kazunari-san, Marcus, * >> >> 2011/10/22 Marcus (OOo) >>> [...] > A users list for talkings and a general list to discuss development wrt the >

Re: Re: How to handle the native language lists?

Hi Jomar, all, 2011/10/22 Jomar Silva : > We have some strong diferences between both languages, and in Brazil there is > some cool jokes about the names used on old OpenOffice (and StarOffice) menus. > > This was btw the first barrier we've had for a massive adoption of the tool > here, and it

Re: Re: How to handle the native language lists?

Hi Jomar, *, 2011/10/22 Jomar Silva : >>I think we should distinguish two cases: >> >>1. bulids ... >>imho obvious to have two builds: br-pt and the pt-pt ... > > Agreed. fine >>2. user-mailinglists >>the question is, wheather we could start with only one mailingt > > Not sure if it will work fi

Re: Neutral / shared security list ...

Am 27.10.2011 02:55, schrieb Peter Junge: I totally agree with Florian. Please stop this "cold war" fought with pointless rhetoric. +1 On 10/25/2011 11:56 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, it is really amazing how much hot air can be produced for such a topic. Folks, it's rather easy

Re: [VOTE] Trademark and Brand

> > a) Apache OpenOffice.org +1 M.

Re: Moving into mentor-idle state

Danke vielmals... and see you soon ;-) ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos and brevity. Am 28.11.2011 10:48 schrieb "Christian Grobmeier" : > Hello folks, > > I am currently a bit exhausted and would like to make some kind of a > break with ooo. I don't want to leave completely, b

Re: Teams and Leads (was: Proposed short term goals)

Hi Sam, *, 2011/6/16 Sam Ruby : > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:47 AM, IngridvdM wrote: >> >> I am really in favor of going without anyone being named leader or manager >> or any name that could create the impression that this person has more >> rights than the others. Maybe we can choose 'contact' a

Re: Teams and Leads

2011/6/16 Rob Weir : > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:27 AM, RA Stehmann > wrote: >> I think we shouldn't invent the wheel twice ;-). >> >> The OpenOffice.org community has an more or less good working >> infrastructure of leads, contact persons, native lang communities, >> teams, mailing lists, websit

Re: Teams and Leads

upps ... 2011/6/16 Ross Gardler : [...] >> IMHO that was the question from Kazunari Hirano. >> https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#label/...ApacheOOo/13092fd2961dd406 >> Unfortunately his has now answer until now. > > That link is no use to people not using GMail, I can't see the mail in my > i

Re: Teams and Leads

Hi André, nice to see you ;-) 2011/6/16 Andre Schnabel : > Hi, > >> Von: "Manfred A. Reiter" > [...] >> >> at the beginning the geramanophone branche of OOo startet with only >> *two* mailinglist >> all the others where created according to

Re: Teams and Leads

Hi Kazunari Hirano san, 2011/6/16 Kazunari Hirano : > Hi Manfred A. Reiter san, > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Manfred A. Reiter > wrote: >> But IMHO each "national project" should start with at least a userlist >> and a list to organise the "nati

Re: Teams and Leads (was: Proposed short term goals)

Hi Dennis, 2011/6/16 Dennis E. Hamilton : > +1 > > (I also favor not solving a problem we don't have [yet].) > what you are talking about, I hope you are not reffering on the following email http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201106.mbox/%3cbanlktinr1syreyob7hfaagv1k67csy

Re: Teams and Leads (was: Proposed short term goals)

Am 16.06.2011 21:15, schrieb Greg Stein: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 05:44, RA Stehmann wrote: ... In a bigger community you need some structure to work efficiently (see for an example the Debian project). Wow. I never thought I would see "Debian" and "efficient" in the same sentence. My life is

Re: Teams and Leads

Hi Ross, *, Am 16.06.2011 14:55, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 16/06/2011 13:47, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: Hi Sam, *, 2011/6/16 Sam Ruby: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:47 AM, IngridvdM wrote: [...] As long as we're talking about people like us. ;-) But: what's with an enduser in Nagano

Re: Teams and Leads

Hi Rob, sorry ... I didn't saw that your answer was addressed to me, because of top-posting and ... because of heavy traffic on the lists I had reinstall an email client to see the threads ;-) Am 16.06.2011 16:39, schrieb Rob Weir: It might be worth describing how national language projects and

Re: Teams and Leads

> It was swarm intelligence at it's best. :-(

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Hi Andrea, Louis, *, Am 17.06.2011 15:08 schrieb "Andrea Pescetti" : > > Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > > I'd also like to modify the original OOo notion of a native language > > project. When I set them up, I did so with a focus on language not > > region. > > And you were right, there is no need to

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Hi Ingrid, *, Am 17.06.2011 17:44, schrieb IngridvdM: [...] My understanding is that this contradicts the principles of the Apache way, because choosing to talk in a native language other than English is excluding most others from their possibility to participate. And if you have only english

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Am 17.06.2011 20:04, schrieb Louis Suarez-Potts: Hi all, On 2011-06-17, at 13:59 , Ian Lynch wrote: On 17 June 2011 18:50, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: Hi Ingrid, *, Am 17.06.2011 17:44, schrieb IngridvdM: My understanding is that this contradicts the principles of the Apache way, because

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Hi Joe, all Am 17.06.2011 20:26, schrieb Joe Schaefer: Whatever ultimately gets created at Apache will require active oversight by the (P)PMC. 1. does it have to be that way... or are the rules made by man 2. do you think that OOo at Apache is comparable with all the other projects? We do

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Hi Ian, Louis, Ingrid, *, Am 17.06.2011 21:14, schrieb Ian Lynch: On 17 June 2011 19:04, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Hi all, On 2011-06-17, at 13:59 , Ian Lynch wrote: On 17 June 2011 18:50, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: Hi Ingrid, *, Am 17.06.2011 17:44, schrieb IngridvdM: [...] Let's

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Dear Rob, Am 17.06.2011 21:49, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Manfred A. Reiterwrote: Can you understand, that due to the nature of OOo it always had very strong language specific communities, wich significantly contributed to the huge success of OOo? Interfering with the h

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Hi Danese, Am 17.06.2011 21:57, schrieb Danese Cooper: +1 This proposal sounds workable to me. Of course part of Manfred's point was that there are also "core" l10n/i18n activities that would presumably now happen at Apache within the core project. IMHO, the language projects will find Apache

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Hi Rob, I don't know how the technical workflow looks like. I was never involved in creating rollout packages. Here on the list are a lot of hackers from Hamburg. They have a lot of experience ;-) I must refer you to them. greetings M. Am 17.06.2011 22:47, schrieb Rob Weir: It will be interes

Re: User facing web items

Hii 2011/6/18 Andrea Pescetti : > Rob Weir wrote: >> IMHO, I'd like to see the user forums become part of the project.  I >> think user support is traditionally a function of an Apache project. >> Although it is most commonly done with a user list, that is just an >> implementation detail, not the

Re: Introduction

Hi Regina, ... > I will further help improving OpemOffice.org, not exclusively but > *in cooperation with LibreOffice.* dann wären wir schon zwei ;-) LG M.

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Am 18.06.2011 11:23, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Manfred A. Reiter wrote: I would also avoid to deny those language projects to be seperated from Apache.org ... in other words /home should be at lang-klingon.ooo.apache.org and not oooinklingon.org Right (the example; the wording above seems to

Re: Introduction

Hi Peter, Am 19.06.2011 18:02, schrieb Peter Junge: Hi everyone, nice to meet you here ;-) Manfred

Re: Introduction

Bom dia Claudio, 2011/6/20 Claudio Filho : > Hi > > 2011/6/18 Manfred A. Reiter : >>> I will further help improving OpemOffice.org, not exclusively but * >>> *in cooperation with LibreOffice.* * > > She isn't the unique. I wish to help where i can, like tra

Re: Introduction

Hi Claudio, Am 21.06.2011 19:51, schrieb Claudio Filho: 2011/6/21 Roberto Salomon: Used to work with Louis and Claudio on OOo. Hopefully we can contribute more at Apache. 2011/6/20 luizh...@gmail.com: humm..maybe four Wow! The Brazilian participation is forming! Only with great friends a

Re: Introduction

Hi Peter, nice to meet YOU ;-) ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos Am 03.07.2011 08:56 schrieb "Peter Junge" : > Hello Raphael, > > good having you around here. > > Peter > > On 24.06.2011 15:42, Raphael Bircher wrote: >> Hi at all >> >> My name is Raphael Bircher and living in Swi

Re: Brazilian government and Apache OpenOffice.org / TDF's LibreOffice

Parabéns! ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos

Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?

## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos Am 08.07.2011 16:41 schrieb "Rob Weir" : > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers? >>> Or is this an admin p

Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?

Hi Dave, *, did you check all the other (not US/UK) user ML as well? IMHO we need a statement for all the current subscribers on the actual user MLs. You can hardly regain customers you lost. ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos Am 08.07.2011 15:53 schrieb "Dave Fisher" : > > On Ju

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

Am 09.07.2011 04:27 schrieb "Greg Stein" : > > I'd go with the shorter URL, and that title looks great. > +1 [...] how do we inform people who speaks/read let's say ... expañol, portuguese, dutch, japanese, french or ... or german? .../OOo/es .../OOo/br-pt .../OOo/pt-pt ... cheers Manfred

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

Hi Javier, Ivo, *, Am 09.07.2011 16:31 schrieb "Ivo Hinkelmann" : > > On 09.07.2011 13:55, Javier Sola wrote: >> >> Why does the name need to be changed? Is there any value in adding "Apache" to the name? >> >> I really think that the name is one of the most important assets of the project at thi

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011/7/9 Peter Junge : > On 09.07.2011 23:34, Danese Cooper wrote: >> >> If you want a legal opinion, please forward a request to >> legal-disc...@apache.org > > No, I don't need a legal opinion because I'm not wanting to remove the > ".org". > I believe you want that, because you know something a

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

Hi André 2011/7/11 Andre Schnabel : > Hi, > [...] > So - if the Apache project does not want to use the brand "OpenOffice.org", > maybe ask Oracle to hand it over to TDF instead. > +1 ;-) > Ok, just joking - I would not expect this to happen. > > But anyway - everyone who would say "no" to the

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011/7/11 Rob Weir : > 2011/7/11 André Schnabel : >> Hi, >> >> Am 11.07.2011 18:39, schrieb Rob Weir: >>> >>>  From a branding perspective you did have the opportunity to start >>> fresh, but you did not go with a ".org" name. >> >> It did not matter that we had the opportunity to start fresh - wha

Re: PPMC Membership and Responsibilities

Hi Pavel, *, 2011/7/16 Daniel Shahaf : > ... and you'll probably be invited to be a committer or PPMC member, > despite having missed the "initial committer" deadline.  (That's why > it's called "initial" committers...) you did so much for OOo, so I'm absolutely sure that you will be invited ;-)

Re: IRC Channel?

Hi all, 2011/7/20 Eike Rathke : > Hi Jürgen, > > On Wednesday, 2011-07-20 09:44:48 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> maybe i got something wrong but i think in the end we decided to move >> forward with the existing channel #dev.openoffice.org > > I wouldn't name that a decision, was that a decis

Re: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

2011/8/2 Rob Weir > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Andy Brown > wrote: > > [...] > > I poked around and found this page: > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Statistics > > This lists some additional roles (with counts) > > Administrators (26) > Bureaucrats (4) > Editors (20) >

Re: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

2011/8/3 Rob Weir > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: > > 2011/8/2 Rob Weir > > > >> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Andy Brown > >> wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> I poked around

Re: Migrating the web forums at user.services.openoffice.org to Apache servers

Hi Christian, * 2011/8/5 Christian Lohmaier : > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:24 PM, drew wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> I'd like to try and move this particular item to completion. >> >> Reading over the mailing list it is my opinion that their is a >> reasonable consensus for the Apache OpenOffice podling

Re: Publishing docs to ebooks from Confluence wiki

## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos Am 14.08.2011 07:36 schrieb "Jean Hollis Weber" : > This blog post may be of interest to people on this list interested in > publishing documents. I certainly found it very interesting... and > potentially very useful. > > http://ffeathers.wordpres

Re: End-User versus Developer Software

2011/8/21 Rob Weir : > Moving to its own thread. > > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:09 PM, RGB ES wrote: >> [...] > There are language-specific lists for other Apache projects.  We can > do that as well.  Maybe not 160 different language lists.  But we can > create a handful of them, as needed.   We

Re: End-User versus Developer Software

followup 2011/8/21 Manfred A. Reiter : > 2011/8/21 Rob Weir : >> Moving to its own thread. >> >> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:09 PM, RGB ES wrote: >>> > > [...] >> not sure how much we can devolve such activities to sub-project lists. > > to start &q

[Marketing] Questions

Hi, sorry for posting the excerpt of an email in a foreign language ... maybehttp://translate.google.de/ helps to understand the content. >> Der Linux Info Tag will Linux-unerfahrene Menschen, sowohl >> Privatpersonen als auch Firmen und Institutionen an Linux heranführen. >> Also zeigen was

Re: [Marketing] Questions

Hi Ross, thanks for you quick answer on/to some questions 2011/8/31 Ross Gardler : > 2011/8/31 Manfred A. Reiter : >> Hi, >> >> sorry for posting the excerpt of an email in a foreign language ... >> maybe    http://translate.google.de/  helps to understand the conte

Re: Who wants to build OpenOffice?

Hi Eike 2011/8/31 Eike Rathke : [...] > > It's more fun to shrink a Windows partition and install a decent > GNU/Linux distribution ;-)  Then, depending on distro, one of > > apt-get build-dep openoffice.org > apt-get build-dep libreoffice > > or what the distro offers as build dependencies with

Re: Who wants to build OpenOffice?

Moin Raphael, 2011/8/31 Raphael Bircher : > Hi Manfred > [...] >>> http://ooo-wiki.apache.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Linux >>> >> I would like to build on a >> Ubuntu x86_64 >> Kernel 2.6.38-11-generic >> Kernel Version #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 29 19:02:55 UTC 201 >> >> do h

Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011/8/31 Rob Weir : > Something else to think about for the ooo-users list: file attachments. > The experience with the german OOo-users list have shown that attachments should be banned. Today it is not an art piece to save a file in net and refer to a link to it. If the user of de-users didn't

Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011/8/30 Dennis E. Hamilton : > Hey, over here (waving arm in the air)! > me too, (if we are talking about en germanophone ML) but I think you are only talking about an english written ML > Yes, I will moderate ooo-users. > > Do you need a minimum of three? > M.

Re: draft blog post on the Linux build education event

2011/9/1 Rob Weir : > https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_openoffice_org_developer_education > how can I login? thanks in advance M.

Re: draft blog post on the Linux build education event

thanks for the link. it works fine. blog looks nice and we will what happens next wednesday ;-) M. 2011/9/1 Rob Weir : > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >> >> >> http://www.apache.org/dev/blogs.html describes the >> (public) preview url for blog articles. >> >> > > Thanks for

Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011/8/31 Rob Weir : > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Manfred A. Reiter > wrote: >> 2011/8/31 Rob Weir : >>> Something else to think about for the ooo-users list: file attachments. >>> >> >> The experience with the german OOo-users list have shown >

Re: draft blog post on the Linux build education event

2011/9/1 Manfred A. Reiter : > blog looks nice and we will what happens next wednesday Put the word "see" into the sentence above, where it belongs ;-)