Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Jim Jagielski
PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote On 8/24/2012 11:19 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Really, all this fuss over the LABELLING of a file being distributed does not add value to either the org, the podling, or the users of the software. Nowhere is it written

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Aug 26, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: No. There is NO WAY IN HELL the org can indemnify a volunteer who produces a binary build themselves. Please don't bother asking legal-discuss to tackle this. Here's an analogy: for a long, long time Bill Rowe has

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:56 AM, donald_harbi...@us.ibm.com wrote: Yes, that's what end users care about. But it's not sufficient for AOO since we are seeking alternative distribution channels. What does that mean? Can I grok alternative distribution channels as more mirrors or something else?

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote On Aug 26, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: No. There is NO WAY IN HELL the org can indemnify a volunteer who produces a binary build themselves. Please don't bother asking legal-discuss

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Jim Jagielski
Re adding ooo-dev@ since this is STILL an AOO issue. On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:56 AM, donald_harbi...@us.ibm.com wrote: Yes, that's what end users care about.

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Re adding ooo-dev@ since this is STILL an AOO issue. On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:56 AM,

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread donald_harbison
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote On Aug 26, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: No. There is NO WAY IN HELL the org can indemnify a volunteer who produces a binary build themselves. Please don't bother asking legal-discuss

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Jim Jagielski
After this, please drop general@ On Aug 27, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: A signature does 2 things: 1. Ensures that no bits have been changed 2. That the bits come from a known (and trusted) entity. Almost. It doesn't guarantee trust. Sure it does. If

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: After this, please drop general@ On Aug 27, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: A signature does 2 things: 1. Ensures that no bits have been changed 2. That the bits come from a known (and trusted)

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Jim Jagielski wrote on Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:38:15 -0400: After this, please drop general@ On Aug 27, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: A signature does 2 things: 1. Ensures that no bits have been changed 2. That the bits come from a known (and trusted)

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
Bullshit.  The policy is as old as the org itself and applies equally to every project in the org including this one.  Rob, if you had the vaguest clue about the history of what the httpd project produces you would have some idea of what the written policy is meant to cover.  People who don't

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Bullshit. The policy is as old as the org itself and applies equally The problem is that when someone questions what the policy is, as several IPMC members have already, the response goes no further than yelling that

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
with totally different fields of applicability. - Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Rob Weir
audiences with totally different fields of applicability. - Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Greg Stein
On Aug 27, 2012 9:57 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: ... But recall in all this that even when the PMC releases code, it is signed by the individual RM, and not by the PMC itself. Apache Subversion releases tend to have a half-dozen signatures. Thus, I'd say they are signed by the

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: The release documentation has far more precision in it than

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
To: gene...@incubator.apache.org Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote On Aug 27, 2012 9:57 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: ... But recall in all

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Jim Jagielski
) are PMC-approved. - Original Message - From: Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com To: gene...@incubator.apache.org Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote On Aug 27

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Aug 27, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Identity != Trust. Identity + Reputation == Trust. The signature only guarantees identity. Signature does not guarantee reputation though. The point is that reputation is dependent upon identity. And identity is ensured

RE: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
:07 To: gene...@incubator.apache.org Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote Which better agrees with written policy anyway- the sigs are part of the release package to be voted on and voted on by the PMC, so even tho it constitutes

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
: Monday, August 27, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote There is a missing distinction here. The discussion about signed binaries is not about external signatures of the kind used by release managers and others, nor about the external digests

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Jim Jagielski
...@incubator.apache.org Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote Which better agrees with written policy anyway- the sigs are part of the release package to be voted on and voted on by the PMC, so even tho it constitutes individual sigs those sigs

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread drew
On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 13:38 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Aug 27, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Identity != Trust. Identity + Reputation == Trust. The signature only guarantees identity. Signature does not guarantee reputation though. The point is

RE: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:joe_schae...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:58 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Cc: j...@jagunet.com Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote Why do persist in hijacking

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Ross Gardler
On 27 August 2012 19:03, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: So - if I may be so bold. Reading email this morning my gut feeling is that there is a lot of violent agreement going on.. I agree. If everyone will just step away from their keyboards for a couple of days, then come back with a precise

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 27, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: The ASF releases code. PMCs vote on a SVN tag and on a release tarball (distribution) made from that tag. There is a direct and easily followed path between the bits the end-user gets and the bits that the PMC has determined as the release.

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-26 Thread Ross Gardler
Moving back to AOO lists These argument is a waste of everyones time. It seems to me that what is/is not permissible is clear, indeed has been clear for some time.the summary is... Patches welcome. More importantly... As for some members of the AOO PPMC implying this is all new to them because

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Moving back to AOO lists These argument is a waste of everyones time. It seems to me that what is/is not permissible is clear, indeed has been clear for some time.the summary is... Patches welcome. Clear to

FW: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:12 To: gene...@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote Since my post was mentioned later on this thread, I thought I would summarize what I have as the take

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:12 To: gene...@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote Since my post was mentioned later on this thread, I thought I would summarize what I have as the take-away from intervening

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-26 Thread Dave Fisher
a ritual requirement. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 18:50 To: gene...@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote I do not dispute the existence of other

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-26 Thread Ross Gardler
Some people think, others have stayed clearly and unambiguously. Including mentors who have voted on your binary release. If the peanut gallery it's a confused then educate, don't argue. As for those demanding a policy, I repeat my original statement - patches welcome. The arguments are

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-22 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi all, +1 Let us go! :) Thanks, khirano On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-21 Thread Wang Zhe
+1 2012/8/21 O.Felka olaf-openoff...@gmx.de [X] +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. Groetjes, Olaf

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-21 Thread Anton Meixome
+1 -- Antón Méixome - Galician Native Lang Coordination Galician community LibO AOO

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-21 Thread Risto Jääskeläinen
Rob Weir [robw...@apache.org] kirjoitti: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. - Original Message -   Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote Rob Weir [robw...@apache.org] kirjoitti: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-21 Thread Andrew Rist
+1 On 8/19/2012 8:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-21 Thread Claudio Filho
Hi Extremely out, in function of personal problems, but giving my vote: +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. Claudio 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended,

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-21 Thread Ian C
+1 On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Extremely out, in function of personal problems, but giving my vote: +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. Claudio 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: Per the IPMC's

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-21 Thread chengjh
+1 On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Ian C i...@amham.net wrote: +1 On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Extremely out, in function of personal problems, but giving my vote: +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-21 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
I've gone over the issues, strengths, and weaknesses, too, and: +1 Louis On 12-08-21, at 21:21 , Ian C i...@amham.net wrote: +1 On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Extremely out, in function of personal problems, but giving my vote: +1 Apache

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-21 Thread shzh zhao
+1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-21 Thread Yue Helen
+1, we are ready! Helen 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter,

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-21 Thread Steve Yin
+1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Yue Helen helenyu...@gmail.com wrote: +1, we are ready! Helen 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional,

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Raphael Bircher
+1 Am 19.08.12 17:52, schrieb Rob Weir: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Larry Gusaas
+1 On 2012-08-19 9:52 AM Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Yan Ji
[X] +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji On Aug 20, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On 2012-08-19 9:52 AM Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Michal Hriň
+0 Don't care Michal Hriň Dňa Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:52:33 +0200 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org napísal: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread David McKay
+1. On 19/08/2012 16:52, Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Andre Fischer
On 19.08.2012 17:52, Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
+1 from my side. Best regards, Oliver. On 19.08.2012 17:52, Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Shenfeng Liu
2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Kevin Grignon
+1 - onward... On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves.

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Linyi Li
+1 Ready to move on~ On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: +1 - onward... On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Liu Da Li
+1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. 2012/8/20 Linyi Li lilinyi921...@gmail.com +1 Ready to move on~ On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: +1 - onward... On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Shenfeng Liu

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Armin Le Grand
+1, let's go! Sincerely, Armin On 19.08.2012 17:52, Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Lei Wang
+1 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Ying Zhang
+1 to graduate。 2012/8/20 Lei Wang lei.wang.l...@gmail.com +1 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Jörg Schmidt
hello, Rob Weir wrote: [...] Am I authorized to vote? If so then: [x] +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. greetings Jörg

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Joost Andrae
Hi, +1 Kind regards, Joost

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Ian Lynch
+1 On 20 August 2012 12:24, ZuoJun Chen zjchen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, + 1 to graduate. Regards 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: hello, Rob Weir wrote: [...] Am I authorized to vote? If so then: Everybody is invited to voice his opinion. Non-PMC members usually add non-binding to their vote to make the vote counters life easier. Cheers!

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:52:33AM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter,

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Dave Barton
+1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. Original Message From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:52:33 -0400 Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional,

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Albino B Neto
Hi 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Herbert Duerr
+1: we're ready! Herbert (saying hello from my vacation in Gran Canaria 8-) ) (via phone, please excuse my brevity)

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Marcus (OOo)
+1 Marcus Am 08/19/2012 05:52 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Phillip Rhodes
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: [ ] +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. [ ] +0 Don't care. [ ] -1 Apache OpenOffice community is not ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator because... +1 Phil

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Juan C. Sanz
El 19/08/2012 17:52, Rob Weir escribió: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread dongjun zong
+1 2012/8/21 Juan C. Sanz juancsa...@hotmail.com El 19/08/2012 17:52, Rob Weir escribió: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Bingbing Ma
+1 2012/8/21 dongjun zong zongdj...@gmail.com +1 2012/8/21 Juan C. Sanz juancsa...@hotmail.com El 19/08/2012 17:52, Rob Weir escribió: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread bjcheny
+1 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Jianyuan Li
+1 2012/8/21 bjcheny compan...@gmail.com +1 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread O.Felka
[X] +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. Groetjes, Olaf

[VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC endorsement, and then to the ASF Board for

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread RGB ES
2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:52:33 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Carl Marcum
+1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. Best regards, Carl On 08/19/2012 11:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Reizinger Zoltán
2012.08.19. 17:52 keltezéssel, Rob Weir írta: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC endorsement, and then to

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Kay Schenk
On 08/19/2012 08:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread imacat
On 2012/08/19 23:52, Rob Weir said: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: Everyone in the community is encouraged to vote. Votes from PPMC members and Mentors are binding. This vote will run 72-hours. [ ] +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. [ ] +0 Don't care. [ ] -1 Apache OpenOffice community is not ready

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi, Rob Weir schrieb: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC endorsement, and

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Graham Lauder
Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC endorsement, and then to the ASF Board

RE: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+0 Abstain (binding) -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 08:53 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Jürgen Lange
[x] +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. Jürgen Am 19.08.2012 17:52, schrieb Rob Weir: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread tj
On 8/19/2012 11:52, Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Peter Junge
On 8/19/2012 11:52 PM, Rob Weir wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Yong Lin Ma
+ 1 Time to move forward further On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes