Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-19 Thread Peter Pöml
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 04:12:09 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote: Personally Peter I would *love* to see the ASF adopt mirrorbrain somehow, and encourage you to work with Henk on something along those lines.  We know it's good, we just have a lot of legacy infra that we need to keep supporting.

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? (was: Re: About Testing the SourceForce Mirror of AOO 3.4)

2012-04-19 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Peter Poeml: anyone, including ASF infra, is free to use MirrorBrain. My recommendation is that ASF infra upgrades from closer.cgi to MirrorBrain, because then they can integrate the existing OOo/AOo mirrors into

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? (was: Re: About Testing the SourceForce Mirror of AOO 3.4)

2012-04-18 Thread Peter Pöml
Hi, Am 13.04.2012 um 01:59 schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Peter Pöml pe...@poeml.de wrote: Hi, Am 03.04.2012 um 18:17 schrieb Roberto Galoppini: We at SourceForge have worked the last ten days to line-up dedicated infrastructure (including CDN services) to support the

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? (was: Re: About Testing the SourceForce Mirror of AOO 3.4)

2012-04-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Peter Poeml: anyone, including ASF infra, is free to use MirrorBrain. My recommendation is that ASF infra upgrades from closer.cgi to MirrorBrain, because then they can integrate the existing OOo/AOo mirrors into Apache mirroring easily. I would also like that we take advantage of MirrorBrain

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-16 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/16/2012 01:09 AM, schrieb Peter Pöml: Hi Joe, Am 13.04.2012 um 20:47 schrieb Joe Schaefer: Not what I need atm drew. I'm looking for the names/addresses of people associated with this PPMC who manage the network- ie the local analog of Henk. Peter is one guy, are there any others? No

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? (was: Re: About Testing the SourceForce Mirror of AOO 3.4)

2012-04-15 Thread drew
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 23:15 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: Hi, On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, Peter Pöml wrote: Am 03.04.2012 um 18:17 schrieb Roberto Galoppini: We at SourceForge have worked the last ten days to line-up dedicated infrastructure (including CDN services) to support the

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? (was: Re: About Testing the SourceForce Mirror of AOO 3.4)

2012-04-15 Thread Ross Gardler
[ooo-dev only] Masterful reply - now that, IMHO, is how to disagree politely. I learned something today. Thanks also for trying to accurately reflect the different views expressed here. Ross On 15 April 2012 19:28, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 23:15 +0200, Eberhard

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-15 Thread Joe Schaefer
...@poeml.de To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 7:09 PM Subject: Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? Hi Joe, Am 13.04.2012 um 20:47 schrieb Joe Schaefer: Not what I need atm drew.  I'm looking for the names/addresses of people associated with this PPMC who

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Peter Pöml pe...@poeml.de wrote: Hi Joe, Am 13.04.2012 um 20:47 schrieb Joe Schaefer: Not what I need atm drew.  I'm looking for the names/addresses of people associated with this PPMC who manage the network- ie the local analog of Henk.  Peter is one guy,

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? (was: Re: About Testing the SourceForce Mirror of AOO 3.4)

2012-04-14 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, Peter Pöml wrote: Am 03.04.2012 um 18:17 schrieb Roberto Galoppini: We at SourceForge have worked the last ten days to line-up dedicated infrastructure (including CDN services) to support the upcoming AOO download serving test. I can hardly believe reading this!

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:04 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 19:39 -0700, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Drew; --- Gio 12/4/12, drew d...@baseanswers.com ha scritto: On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 21:09 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Peter; it's really amazing to

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
Right. The plan all along was to migrate the mirrorbrain network to apache mirrors and supplement that with sf help. That we all agreed to this only to have sand kicked in our faces again is merely status quo for how this project operates. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:00 AM,

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread drew
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 03:23 -0400, Joe Schaefer wrote: Right. The plan all along was to migrate the mirrorbrain network to apache mirrors and supplement that with sf help. That we all agreed to this only to have sand kicked in our faces again is merely status quo for how this project

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 03:23 -0400, Joe Schaefer wrote: Right.  The plan all along was to migrate the mirrorbrain network to apache mirrors and supplement

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread drew
On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 23:00 -0700, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:04 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 19:39 -0700, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Drew; --- Gio 12/4/12, drew d...@baseanswers.com ha scritto: On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 21:09 -0500,

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread drew
: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 03:23 -0400, Joe Schaefer wrote: Right. The plan all along was to migrate the mirrorbrain network to apache mirrors and supplement that with sf help. That we all agreed

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Ross Gardler
On 13 April 2012 14:00, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 05:38 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote: Bit late to pretend you're trying to be helpful here with the bits about NIH you like tossing around. What questions are you asking again?  And what facts are you pointing out?  

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Dave Fisher
you'll have to excuse me while I figure out where else all this unwanted sand could've come from. From: drew d...@baseanswers.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Ditching our mirror system

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Rob Weir
who worked out this deal you'll have to excuse me while I figure out where else all this unwanted sand could've come from. From: drew d...@baseanswers.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Ditching our mirror

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Dave Fisher
this deal you'll have to excuse me while I figure out where else all this unwanted sand could've come from. From: drew d...@baseanswers.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Ditching our mirror system

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Rob Weir
our mirror system for an inferior solution? On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 03:23 -0400, Joe Schaefer wrote: Right.  The plan all along was to migrate the mirrorbrain network to apache mirrors and supplement that with sf help.  That we all agreed to this only to have sand kicked in our faces again

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread drew
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 14:42 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: On 13 April 2012 14:00, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 05:38 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote: Bit late to pretend you're trying to be helpful here with the bits about NIH you like tossing around. What questions are

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Ross Gardler
On 13 April 2012 17:58, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 14:42 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: ... Alright, so it is just a matter of existing policy At this point I think I ought to let infra team members answer as they are both infra people and thus able to answer your

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Roberto Galoppini
all this unwanted sand could've come from. From: drew d...@baseanswers.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 03:23 -0400

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread drew jensen
to not incur needless costs, something I consider eminently fair and reasonable. HTH From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 1:20 PM Subject: Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 11:11 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote: FTR, I just got thru discussing these issues with Henk

Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? (was: Re: About Testing the SourceForce Mirror of AOO 3.4)

2012-04-12 Thread Peter Pöml
Hi, Am 03.04.2012 um 18:17 schrieb Roberto Galoppini: We at SourceForge have worked the last ten days to line-up dedicated infrastructure (including CDN services) to support the upcoming AOO download serving test. I can hardly believe reading this! What's going on? We have an existing (and

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? (was: Re: About Testing the SourceForce Mirror of AOO 3.4)

2012-04-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Peter Pöml pe...@poeml.de wrote: Hi, Am 03.04.2012 um 18:17 schrieb Roberto Galoppini: We at SourceForge have worked the last ten days to line-up dedicated infrastructure (including CDN services) to support the upcoming AOO download serving test. I can

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? (was: Re: About Testing the SourceForce Mirror of AOO 3.4)

2012-04-12 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Peter Pöml pe...@poeml.de wrote: Hi, Am 03.04.2012 um 18:17 schrieb Roberto Galoppini: We at SourceForge have worked the last ten days to line-up dedicated infrastructure (including CDN

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? (was: Re: About Testing the SourceForce Mirror of AOO 3.4)

2012-04-12 Thread drew
On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 18:49 -0700, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Peter Pöml pe...@poeml.de wrote: Hi, Am 03.04.2012 um 18:17 schrieb Roberto Galoppini: We at SourceForge have worked the

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Peter; it's really amazing to see level of support and general service that mirrorbrain has provided historically for OpenOffice. We haven't said no to mirrorbrain but you do understand that we just couldn't turn down the extra support offered by sourceforge. Everyone that offers to help is

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-12 Thread drew
On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 21:09 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Peter; it's really amazing to see level of support and general service that mirrorbrain has provided historically for OpenOffice. We haven't said no to mirrorbrain but you do understand that we just couldn't turn down the extra support

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Drew; --- Gio 12/4/12, drew d...@baseanswers.com ha scritto: On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 21:09 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Peter; it's really amazing to see level of support and general service that mirrorbrain has provided historically for OpenOffice. We haven't said no to

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-12 Thread drew
On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 19:39 -0700, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Drew; --- Gio 12/4/12, drew d...@baseanswers.com ha scritto: On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 21:09 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Peter; it's really amazing to see level of support and general service that mirrorbrain has provided

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Gio 12/4/12, drew d...@baseanswers.com ha scritto: ... Because we just have no basis for rejecting mirrors. Sure we do, groups; particularly non-profits turn down offers from commercial operators all the time. Lets be clear the SF offer is not all about contributing to the project