Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-06 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 05/10/11 21:07, Mathias Bauer a écrit : > > Hi Mathias, > > > > > Of course that would probably mean that our Linux version won't run out > > of the box on most Linux machines as the old OOo version did. It will > > run only on those

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-06 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 05/10/11 21:07, Mathias Bauer a écrit : Hi Mathias, > > Of course that would probably mean that our Linux version won't run out > of the box on most Linux machines as the old OOo version did. It will > run only on those computers that have compatible versions of all > libraries installed in t

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-05 Thread RGB ES
2011/10/5 Andrea Pescetti > On 04/10/2011 23:58 RGB ES wrote: > >> I can see a big problem coming: with every single Linux distro using LibO >> for the foreseeable future and considering the fact that nobody will build >> OOo at home (specially on windows), if, say, next year somebody install >>

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-05 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 05.10.2011 02:34, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: It seems the question remains if vanilla AOOo can link against copy-left system libraries. Exactly. And moreover, which libraries can be named "system" libraries. IMHO gtk can, but librsvg can't. Don't know about GStreamer. Regards, Mathias

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-05 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 05.10.2011 02:46, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 03:12:09PM -0700, Pedro Giffuni wrote: The GStreamer integration doesn't make sense without GStreamer - so we shouldn't build it when no GStreamer libs are available. Agreed. We decided that configure without switches

RE: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
bject: Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft? http://www.enlightenment.org/ cheers, Pedro. --- On Wed, 10/5/11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: This was a subject I didn't want to bring in just yet, but if it does happen that linking them is an issue, there are replacements. replacemen

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-05 Thread Pedro Giffuni
http://www.enlightenment.org/ cheers, Pedro. --- On Wed, 10/5/11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: This was a subject I didn't want to bring in just yet, but if it does happen that linking them is an issue, there are replacements. replacements? Really, what do you have in mind? Juergen

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 04/10/2011 23:58 RGB ES wrote: I can see a big problem coming: with every single Linux distro using LibO for the foreseeable future and considering the fact that nobody will build OOo at home (specially on windows), if, say, next year somebody install OOo 3.4 that will be for sure an Apache bu

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-05 Thread Michael Stahl
On 05.10.2011 09:42, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >> >> --- On Tue, 10/4/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: >> ... >>> >>> it seems you miss my point here. >>> If you disable building and shipping GStreamer because it >>> links against copy-left sys

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-05 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > --- On Tue, 10/4/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > ... > > > > it seems you miss my point here. > > If you disable building and shipping GStreamer because it > > links against copy-left system libs, then you should > > remove the VCL plugi

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 10/4/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: ... > > it seems you miss my point here. > If you disable building and shipping GStreamer because it > links against copy-left system libs, then you should > remove the VCL plugins too (AFAIK gtk is LGPL, I'm not > sure about Qt/KDE). > Oh .. i

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-04 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Pedro, On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 06:16:01PM -0700, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > but we are talking here about the GStreamer *plugin*. Just > > like the gtk and kde VLC plugins, they have Oracle license, > > and they are in the software grant, this means they (will) > > have Apache License. > > > >

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 10/4/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile > > but we are talking here about the GStreamer *plugin*. Just > like the gtk and kde VLC plugins, they have Oracle license, > and they are in the software grant, this means they (will) > have Apache License. > We can ship the AL2 source code and pe

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-04 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 03:12:09PM -0700, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > The GStreamer integration doesn't make sense without > > GStreamer - so we > > shouldn't build it when no GStreamer libs are available. > > > > Agreed. > > > We decided that configure without switches should be the > > default Ap

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-04 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hello Mathias, On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 11:28:06PM +0200, Mathias Bauer wrote: > Am 04.10.2011 17:27, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: > > > Hi there, > > > > The GStreamer avmedia plugin is disabled when copyleft is disabled (the > > default in AOOo). > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/oo

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 10/4/11, RGB ES wrote: ... > > Sorry for jumping into the discussion ;) > I can see a big problem coming: with every single Linux > distro using LibO for the foreseeable future and > considering the fact that nobody will build > OOo at home (specially on windows), if, say, next year >

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 10/4/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... > > The GStreamer integration doesn't make sense without > GStreamer - so we > shouldn't build it when no GStreamer libs are available. > Agreed. > We decided that configure without switches should be the > default Apache build. OTOH we didn't ag

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-04 Thread RGB ES
2011/10/4 Mathias Bauer > Am 04.10.2011 17:27, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: > > > Hi there, > > > > The GStreamer avmedia plugin is disabled when copyleft is disabled (the > > default in AOOo). > > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/configure.in?view=markup#l1248 > > I cann

Re: GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-04 Thread Mathias Bauer
Am 04.10.2011 17:27, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: > Hi there, > > The GStreamer avmedia plugin is disabled when copyleft is disabled (the > default in AOOo). > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/configure.in?view=markup#l1248 > I cannot understand why this is treated as copy

GStreamer avmedia plugin as copyleft?

2011-10-04 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi there, The GStreamer avmedia plugin is disabled when copyleft is disabled (the default in AOOo). http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/configure.in?view=markup#l1248 I cannot understand why this is treated as copy-left code. The plugin was developed by Oracle and is on the soft