Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-09 Thread Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers
Hey, It looks really good! Jon 2009/12/9 Jean-Louis Faucher > Jon > > Thanks for the odg files. > > You can have a look at the build 5396 on the build machine : in oodialog, > dlgArea looks great page 423 :-) > > For sample1, I extracted the png and refer it directly : the pdf format > does no

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-09 Thread David Ashley
I took a look at you new rxsock.pdf file. And I am VERY pleased with the results. The image objects look much more crisp with no fuzziness at all. Very nice. David Ashley On 12/08/2009 05:39 PM, Jean-Louis Faucher wrote: Tested with the build machine, rxsock.pdf looks good except the empty ar

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-09 Thread Jean-Louis Faucher
Jon Thanks for the odg files. You can have a look at the build 5396 on the build machine : in oodialog, dlgArea looks great page 423 :-) For sample1, I extracted the png and refer it directly : the pdf format does not bring more quality here (bitmap). Jean-Louis

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers
Hi Jean-Louis, they are there now Jon 2009/12/8 Jean-Louis Faucher > Jon > > They should be in docs/trunk/oodialog. > I'm working there (trunk). > > Jean-Louis > > > -- > Return on Information: > Google Enterprise Sear

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Jean-Louis Faucher
Tested with the build machine, rxsock.pdf looks good except the empty area under the figures. I think it's the format of the page that must be adjusted in OODraw, to be limited to the image area. In the html doc, I see that some text is displayed on the right of the figures. Is it intended ? becau

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Jean-Louis Faucher
Jon They should be in docs/trunk/oodialog. I'm working there (trunk). Jean-Louis -- Return on Information: Google Enterprise Search pays you back Get the facts. http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev _

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers
I just did the three of them. Where would you like them? Jon 2009/12/8 Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers > Hi Guys, > > Bad news on the dlgarea jpg source. I don't have anything that you don't > have. I can't remember how I created them now, though I do remember that > dlgarea1.jpg took forever and I

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread David Ashley
There are a number of image files for which we do not have the source. A big one is the ooRexx logo. A friend of Mark Hessling created that image. We should ping Mark and see if we can get the source. Also note that a lot of images are duplicated in each subdir for each document. Please do not

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Sahananda (Jon) Wolfers
Hi Guys, Bad news on the dlgarea jpg source. I don't have anything that you don't have. I can't remember how I created them now, though I do remember that dlgarea1.jpg took forever and I wasn't happy with the result. I think sample1 was just a screen shot that I pasted into paint. As for spare

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Mark Miesfeld
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Rick McGuire wrote: > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Jean-Louis Faucher > wrote: >> I propose to do the changes on rxsock, and test the result with the build >> machine. >> Then I will apply the changes to the rest of the documentation, if it works. I'm fine wi

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Rick McGuire
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Jean-Louis Faucher wrote: > I propose to do the changes on rxsock, and test the result with the build > machine. > Then I will apply the changes to the rest of the documentation, if it works. > > Here are my questions :-) > > Q1 > In which directory do I apply the c

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Jean-Louis Faucher
I propose to do the changes on rxsock, and test the result with the build machine. Then I will apply the changes to the rest of the documentation, if it works. Here are my questions :-) Q1 In which directory do I apply the changes : docs/trunk ? (I think it's mandatory for the build machine) What

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread David Ashley
I also have to confess that I don't know anything about the pdf image format. But I am always interested in improving the documentation in any way that makes sense and does not have a large impact on our audience. David Ashley On 12/08/2009 10:38 AM, Mark Miesfeld wrote: > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 a

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Mark Miesfeld
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Jean-Louis Faucher wrote: > This proposition has no impact on the HTML documentation. > ... > But if the > group is interested, I can investigate to verify if the toolset supports > this format. I'm definitely interested in better images for the PDF doc. I've noti

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Cowlishaw
SVG format requires manual install of an add-in (which is actually quite hard to find) on IE8. Tried it the other day (and had some problems). I'd recommend against it. Separately, PDF uses its own internal rendering (essentially the inking commands of PostScript). Those commands can handle

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Jean-Louis Faucher
This proposition has no impact on the HTML documentation. By removing the .png suffix of the images in the sgml files, the system (Jade) can decide which format to look for : .pdf when target is print, .png when target is html. This is parameterized in the customation layer oorexx.print.dsl (to ind

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread CVBruce
The .odg file can be exported as a .svg, which is supported on the browsers, that I've used. Bruce On Dec 8, 2009, at 6:48 AM, Rick McGuire wrote: > The pdf version of the images certainly do scale better than the .png > versions. What impact does this change have to the generation of > .html

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread CVBruce
I guess I don't know enough about how images are stored in a .pdf. I *assumed* that they were stored in the graphic format supplied. Some formats are supported by the "Reader" software, such as .jpg, .gif, .png, .bmp for raster images, and .svg for vector graphics. So what you are saying

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Rick McGuire
The pdf version of the images certainly do scale better than the .png versions. What impact does this change have to the generation of .html output? Rick On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Jean-Louis Faucher wrote: > Currently, we generate .png images from their source .odg files > (OpenOffice), a

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Rick McGuire
I don't believe Jean-Louis is suggesting that the odg images be used directly, but rather we convert them to pdf images rather than .png images when generating the documents. This would not impose and requirement on the read to have open office installed. Rick On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:36 AM, CVB

Re: [Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread CVBruce
Jean-Louis, The basic idea sounds good to me, but not being familiar with the .odg file type, I wonder if it will display and print correctly on systems that do not have some version of Open Office installed. Perhaps you can send out a .pdf that contains a .odg image in it for testing?

[Oorexx-devel] A proposition for better image quality in PDF documentation

2009-12-08 Thread Jean-Louis Faucher
Currently, we generate .png images from their source .odg files (OpenOffice), and these .png are used both for the pdf documentation and the html documentation. But .png images are not vector images and sometimes they look blurred or with pixels in the pdf documentation. A better quality can be obt