Re: [open-axiom-devel] [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Michael.Abshoff
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > | The name issue has already caused problems. William Stein of SAGE > | believe he has Axiom installed when he actually has Fricas. > > Of course, both you and me cannot speak for William Stein, but there > is strong eviden

Re: [open-axiom-devel] willful denial

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, root wrote: | When EGCS forked GCC they changed the command to egcs. That is utter plain wrong. The compiler was named gcc -- I was there. The GCC on a Redhat Linux is different from the GCC on a SUSE Linux, and different from FSF GCC. Yet, the commands are all named th

Re: [open-axiom-devel] willful denial

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, root wrote: | There is only one axiom command on the path. The OpenAxiom project uses `OpenAxiom' as *its name* and that is what it advertises in its version numbers, web pages, etc. The Axiom project cannot dictate how other AXIOM derivatives must name their files, just lik

Re: [open-axiom-devel] willful denial

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, root wrote: | Did you deliberately miss the point? Not at all. | The POINT is what command do you use to start OpenAxiom? It is called `axiom', in case you missed, I'm going to repeat it again: When I install GNU coreutils on my Solaris box, I don't confuse GNU wi

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [open-axiom-patches] reify failure

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Bill Page wrote: | On 12/17/07, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Bill Page wrote: | > | > | On 12/17/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > | > ... | > | > I used to be subscribed to MathAcion but I know longer receive | > | > email from that page.

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [open-axiom-patches] reify failure

2007-12-17 Thread Bill Page
On 12/17/07, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Bill Page wrote: > > | On 12/17/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > | > ... > | > I used to be subscribed to MathAcion but I know longer receive > | > email from that page. Was it lost with the move? > | > > | > | Yes, sorry

Re: [open-axiom-devel] willful denial

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | | sigh. | Tim It's sad to realize that you cannot read what you see, yet you're willing to lecture people on how they should do their job. #

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, root wrote: | I only made one request when you forked Axiom. I asked | that, as a professional courtesy, you please use your | own project name. It is called OpenAxiom. When you starts OpenAxiom-1.1.0-xxx it says OpenAxiom: The Open Scientific Computation Plat

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, root wrote: | >| >It seems to me that we have more FUD that concrete data that we can | >| >subject to rational analysis. | >| | >| Sigh. So you don't read the mailing lists. However, you'll remember | >| that Axiom was clobbered by the newer install on the windows platform.

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [open-axiom-patches] reify failure

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Bill Page wrote: | On 12/17/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > ... | > I used to be subscribed to MathAcion but I know longer receive | > email from that page. Was it lost with the move? | > | | Yes, sorry. You will have to re-subscribe. OK; is it the same thing for `my' old p

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, root wrote: | >| The name issue has already caused problems. William Stein of SAGE | >| believe he has Axiom installed when he actually has Fricas. | > | >Of course, both you and me cannot speak for William Stein, but there | >is strong evidence that he knows he has FriCAS. |

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, root wrote: | >It seems to me that we have more FUD that concrete data that we can | >subject to rational analysis. | | Sigh. So you don't read the mailing lists. However, you'll remember | that Axiom was clobbered by the newer install on the windows platform. You reported t

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | The name issue has already caused problems. William Stein of SAGE | believe he has Axiom installed when he actually has Fricas. Of course, both you and me cannot speak for William Stein, but there is strong evidence that he knows he has FriCAS. -- Gaby

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: | | root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | > Oh, but they DO. Try to do parallel installations. | > Being able to run Fricas and Axiom in parallel would be great. With OpenAxiom and FriCAS, one can specify their own installation directories at configure ti

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, C Y wrote: | --- Martin Rubey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > But they wouldn't! Why would you think that any of your work was | > lost when you install axiom after having installed friCAS? | | I think the concern here is accidentally overwriting an installation of | Axiom

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Rubey
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh, but they DO. Try to do parallel installations. > Being able to run Fricas and Axiom in parallel would be great. I cannot see any problem running friCAS and axiom in parallel. I do it, for example (because I couldn't get Aldor to run with friCAS yet), and I

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Rubey
C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think the concern here is accidentally overwriting an installation of Axiom > with FriCAS, for example, or having the wrong library used due to path > confusion. In my opinion that concern is valid. So, how much work is it to reinstall axiom or friCAS, or open

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Rubey
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It should be possible to have both systems installed, ala CMUCL and SBCL, > even though they do the same things; if only for the reason that it would > make it possible to compare results of system changes. Why should the user > suddenly lose all of their Fricas

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Rubey
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The following patch changes installation directory from > $PREFIX/lib/axiom to $PREFIX/lib/fricas and the name of installed > binary from $PREFIX/bin/axiom to $PREFIX/bin/fricas. > > I think that we should do this change to avoid conflicts with > othe

Re: [open-axiom-devel] Building the Aldor interface on FriCAS or OpenAxiom

2007-12-17 Thread Bill Page
On 17 Dec 2007 14:57:06 +0100, Martin Rubey wrote: > > I just can't get it to work. > > I did: > ... > I really really need help! I can't read Makefiles. Many > thanks, > I do not see immediately from the output in your email what that problem might be although as I recall the process was not sm

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [open-axiom-patches] reify failure

2007-12-17 Thread Bill Page
On 12/17/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > ... > I used to be subscribed to MathAcion but I know longer receive > email from that page. Was it lost with the move? > Yes, sorry. You will have to re-subscribe. Regards, Bill Page. ---

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [open-axiom-patches] reify failure

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Bill Page wrote: | On 12/17/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | >... | > > http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/SandBoxOpenAxiom | > ... | > Interesting the last line -- I wonder why I did not noticed it in my | > testsuite. Looking at | > | >showSummary AlgebraicNumber | > | > I

Re: [open-axiom-devel] Building the Aldor interface on FriCAS or OpenAxiom

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Rubey
Dear Bill, *, I just can't get it to work. I did: cd ax-build-clean # create the directory structure expected by the aldor interface mkdir int cd int ln -s ../src/algebra . cd ../.. # now I'm in ax-build-clean again ln -s build obj cd src/aldor document Makefile.pamphlet export $AXIOM=/local/s

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [open-axiom-patches] reify failure

2007-12-17 Thread Bill Page
On 12/17/07, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: >... > > http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/SandBoxOpenAxiom > ... > Interesting the last line -- I wonder why I did not noticed it in my > testsuite. Looking at > >showSummary AlgebraicNumber > > I see that something is already wrong with the data produced

Re: [open-axiom-devel] [open-axiom-patches] reify failure

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, Bill Page wrote: | On 16 Dec 2007 11:29:05 -0600, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > | | Anyway now that we can support OpenAxiom on the Axiom Wiki I | > | | would like to create some pages specifically to show off some of | > | |