Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS with RAID

2005-12-29 Thread Christof Hanke
Jeffrey Altman wrote: Stephan Wiesand wrote: Wouldn't it be an option to not take over the IP address, but just the vice partition? Once failure of the peer is recognized and confirmed (which is a problem, I agree, but not at all AFS-specific): 1) stonith 2) mount the new vice partition

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS with RAID

2005-12-29 Thread Horst Birthelmer
On Dec 29, 2005, at 12:28 PM, Christof Hanke wrote: Jeffrey Altman wrote: Stephan Wiesand wrote: Wouldn't it be an option to not take over the IP address, but just the vice partition? Once failure of the peer is recognized and confirmed (which is a problem, I agree, but not at all

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS with RAID

2005-12-29 Thread Christof Hanke
I did something like this years ago and it worked, but somehow I still have a bad feeling about doing it ;-) It only gets tricky, when you have two machines claiming to be the same server...;-) It was using FibreChannel devices, which are very easy to 'move'. It included moving the IP

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS with RAID

2005-12-29 Thread ted creedon
Here /usr/afs is on its own partition as well as the /vicepxx's. As long as /usr/afs is intact - or backed up - the partitions can be physically moved to a new server or recovered or whatever. When new hardware is built, the drives are physiclly relocated to the new server and voila...

[OpenAFS] why kerberos only works in monolithic organizations

2005-12-29 Thread Adam Megacz
Ken Hornstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe it's me, but I've never really seen the difference between a junk certificate and a Kerberos ticket; Somebody with no prior trust relationship can check the validity of a junk certificate. I'm confused; do you know about some cryptosystem that I

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-29 Thread Robert Banz
Stephan Wiesand wrote: On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Derek Atkins wrote: You don't want AFS for an imap or maildir backend. You should just Since it's void of any locks, what would be wrong with maildir in AFS? There's a bunch of things wrong with stock maildir; I've done a lot of work with it.

[OpenAFS] Re: final prerequesite for world domination

2005-12-29 Thread Adam Megacz
Ken Hornstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: zeroauth (for lack of a better term) is a completely different matter. I agree. I think the point I'm trying to make is that this is outside the scope of what I'm proposing, and that modularity is good. What I'm saying is that you should be able to keep

[OpenAFS] Re: why kerberos only works in monolithic organizations

2005-12-29 Thread Adam Megacz
Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In any case, this is not the biggest impediment to OpenAFS adoption. If you can obtain a domain name and publish the appropriate records in a name server, then you can successfully deploy an AFS cell and Kerberos realm. The current situation is sort

[OpenAFS] feasibility of moving lightweight-principals issue upstream to kerberos

2005-12-29 Thread Adam Megacz
Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Granted these models are currently not distributed such that you could download an implementation from MIT or KTH but that is because there has not been appropriate demand for such functionality and the current Kerberos implementors do not have the

[OpenAFS] Re: final prerequesite for world domination

2005-12-29 Thread Adam Megacz
Ken Hornstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While I am pretty liberal with who we cross-realm with, that does not extend to users using those realms. We control the principal to userid mapping, and do not let users get interactive access to our systems from arbitrary principals. This is a good

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: why kerberos only works in monolithic organizations

2005-12-29 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Adam Megacz wrote: The advent of public-key email security resulted in a network effect: it took very little effort to get access to a very large pool of people with whom you could communicate securely. This offset the cost of having to maintain a ~/.pgp and a lot more people wound up with