Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread ted creedon
NetInfo keeps everything straight. There are also 2 other afs servers on the internal net that replicate to the dual homed server every night via the non routable class A address 10.1.1.x.. The packet logs bear this out. It also works, for whatever reason. Tedc Jeffrey Hartwigsen wrote: ted

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Jeffrey Hartwigsen wrote: > >>> Scratch that.. *red face* I forgot to specify port 7001. >>> >> >> When the clients are behind a NAT the port may not be 7001. In your >> example the port was 12096. >> >> Jeffrey Altman >> > > Right. This was the test client I put on the same subnet

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Hartwigsen
ted creedon wrote: For what its worth, an identical problem was solved by placing the afs server on a DMZ running its own firewall, installing 2 nic cards, one internal and one external, and writing firewall rules to match. Only afs traffic is allowed from the internal net to the afs server which

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Hartwigsen
Scratch that.. *red face* I forgot to specify port 7001. When the clients are behind a NAT the port may not be 7001. In your example the port was 12096. Jeffrey Altman Right. This was the test client I put on the same subnet with the server. I couldn't figure out why it would

RE: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread ted creedon
For what its worth, an identical problem was solved by placing the afs server on a DMZ running its own firewall, installing 2 nic cards, one internal and one external, and writing firewall rules to match. Only afs traffic is allowed from the internal net to the afs server which also is the KRB5 ser

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Jeffrey Hartwigsen wrote: > >> >> I'm having trouble getting rxdebug -ver to respond for any windows >> client even if it's on the same network as the server or other client >> with no firewalls enabled. I just used rxdebug the other day to >> determine which versions I still have deployed. It wor

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Jeffrey Hartwigsen wrote: > I'm having trouble getting rxdebug -ver to respond for any windows > client even if it's on the same network as the server or other client > with no firewalls enabled. I just used rxdebug the other day to > determine which versions I still have deployed. It worked fine

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Hartwigsen
I'm having trouble getting rxdebug -ver to respond for any windows client even if it's on the same network as the server or other client with no firewalls enabled. I just used rxdebug the other day to determine which versions I still have deployed. It worked fine then. Could this have somet

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread bil
--On Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:07 PM -0400 Jeffrey Altman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: bil wrote: That kind of begs my question about whether a contact interval as an option with a variable to be set is possible as seems to be the case in the windows 1.5.1 client. I have absolutely no idea

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Hartwigsen
And what about when trying to reach \\afs\all\ ? Sometimes they get the same error for \\afs\all\ and sometimes it's only when trying to access specific volumes. There are far less of these occurrences them now than before we increased the timeouts. ... Now the question is whether

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Altman
bil wrote: > That kind of begs my question about whether a contact interval as an > option with a variable to be set is possible as seems to be the case in > the windows 1.5.1 client. I have absolutely no idea whether that would > be possible or not, or easy or hard--I freely admit absolute ignora

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Jeffrey Hartwigsen wrote: > After resetting the UDP timeouts on both of our NAT boxes to 11 minutes, > things are much improved. We are still experiencing some problems with > timeouts though. (Windows claims "The network path cannot be found" when > trying to access filespace) And what about whe

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread bil
--On Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:30 PM -0400 Jim Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sigh. Groan. Didn't we just discuss this last week for the hundredth time? Can't say, I may have missed something, sorry if I did. I am aware that the issue comes up pretty regularly, but then NATs are pre

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Hartwigsen
Jeffrey Altman wrote: I would need to see the output of the file server logs at level 125 to explain to you exactly what is happening. However, suffice it to say that if your NATs do not keep the port mappings open, nothing the file server does is going to help. Jeffrey Altman After rese

RE: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread ted creedon
There's no real reason to NAT the UDP ports on an afs server. tedc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Hornstein Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:38 AM To: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues. >Doing this with tt

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread Ken Hornstein
>Doing this with ttl=1 is an intriguing idea, but I think it belongs in an >external application, like natkeep, not in OpenAFS. And it would be hard to >implement, requiring systype dependent code. And the ultimate fix is tcp >but that's a big job and a long way off. s/long/medium/ --Ken __

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread Jim Rees
Sigh. Groan. Didn't we just discuss this last week for the hundredth time? The consensus was that it's a bad idea to allow ordinary users to pound on the servers that way. I did put code in cvs head that will check up and down servers every 30 seconds, but right now there is no convenient way t

Re: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread hays
--On Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:01 PM -0400 Jeffrey Altman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Windows clients running 1.4.0 when idle do not contact the file servers but once per hour. During that time period the NATs will timeout the port mappings. Hence the file servers will not be able to com

RE: [OpenAFS] NAT issues.

2006-04-26 Thread ted creedon
Using a single NAT firewall set up with Fwbuilder the rule is :firewall to any afs and :any to firewall afs The dual homed server listens to both the internal net and the external net. Kerberos V has to be set up too. Linksys firewalls don't work with the standard code. Looking at the packet

Re: [OpenAFS] FreeBSD & OpenAFS : when?

2006-04-26 Thread Jim Rees
A few of us have worked on it in the past but no one is working on the FreeBSD client now. ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list OpenAFS-info@openafs.org https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info

Re: [OpenAFS] FreeBSD & OpenAFS : when?

2006-04-26 Thread Horst Birthelmer
On Apr 26, 2006, at 1:05 PM, vladimir konrad wrote: Are there any plans for completing FreeBSD's openafs client functionality in the near future? i found arla working fine (did not do much testing though), i build it from source. http://www.stacken.kth.se/project/arla/ That heavily depe

Re: [OpenAFS] FreeBSD & OpenAFS : when?

2006-04-26 Thread vladimir konrad
> Are there any plans for completing FreeBSD's openafs client > functionality in the near future? i found arla working fine (did not do much testing though), i build it from source. http://www.stacken.kth.se/project/arla/ vlad pgpbQWZdH3HoG.pgp Description: PGP signature

[OpenAFS] FreeBSD & OpenAFS : when?

2006-04-26 Thread ph rhole oper
Are there any plans for completing FreeBSD's openafs client functionality in the near future? simon. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list OpenAFS-info@openafs.org https://lists.openafs.org/mail