Re: [OpenAFS] when openafs becomes a windows IFS

2008-09-04 Thread Jeffrey Altman
David: I believe I was quite clear that Explorer ignores the information. Explorer on XP and Vista simply do not attempt to obtain information regarding the reparse point data when the file system is SMB. I am very reluctant to ship this code when it has no visible benefit and the potential ris

[OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-announce] OpenAFS gatekeeper plan draft available

2008-09-04 Thread Steven Jenkins
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Derrick Brashear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OpenAFS has started down a path to formally organizing. One piece of > the plan involves formalizing roles, and so provided here is a draft > plan for the role of the gatekeepers as well as expectations of > contributors

Re: [OpenAFS] RE: [OpenAFS-announce] OpenAFS gatekeeper plan draft available

2008-09-04 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Buhrmaster, Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> ... Comments welcome, either privately >> or ideally to openafs-info@openafs.org . >> >> http://www.openafs.org/foundation/gatekeepers.html > > I note that item 3 of the gatekeeper responsibilities > could negate the

Re: [OpenAFS] On contributor agreements

2008-09-04 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Buhrmaster, Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I think that's the sort of agreement that Derrick has in mind > > Sorry, I did not interpret it that way. Actually while I'd like copyright assignment I don't know that is it generically tenable and I believe it's spe

Re: [OpenAFS] On contributor agreements

2008-09-04 Thread Derrick Brashear
>> > I second that "it depends on the agreement" point. I'm fine with the > GPL, BSD, MIT or IPL. My employer has allowed GPL submissions, but > prohibited IPL submissions. My employer will not enter any agreement > where disputes are required to be resolved in a state other than North > Carolina.

[OpenAFS] RE: [OpenAFS-announce] OpenAFS gatekeeper plan draft available

2008-09-04 Thread Buhrmaster, Gary
> ... Comments welcome, either privately > or ideally to openafs-info@openafs.org . > > http://www.openafs.org/foundation/gatekeepers.html I note that item 3 of the gatekeeper responsibilities could negate the necessity of including the contributor responsibilities (since item 3 indicates the

Re: [OpenAFS] when openafs becomes a windows IFS

2008-09-04 Thread David Bear
This is EXCELLENT. Maybe with the code in place, Explorer and other file managers will catch up... .. maybe its just wishfull thinking. What happens if you use a cygwin bash shell and do a ls ?? On 9/4/08, Jeffrey Altman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I added the code to the SMB Server to identi

Re: [OpenAFS] On contributor agreements

2008-09-04 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 05:31:48PM -0400, Derrick Brashear wrote: > > >> As we move to make OpenAFS exist as a legal entity, this process needs >> to be formalized. One possibility would be to have a contributor >> agreement, similar to existing agreements from other proj

RE: [OpenAFS] On contributor agreements

2008-09-04 Thread Buhrmaster, Gary
> I think that's the sort of agreement that Derrick has in mind Sorry, I did not interpret it that way. > ... Personally, I'd rather sign it once rather than > providing a new copy with each code submission, > since I can readily agree to something like that. "Agreeing" each time with a "signe

Re: [OpenAFS] On contributor agreements

2008-09-04 Thread Russ Allbery
"Buhrmaster, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Would a more lightweight process be acceptable, in > that any code needs to be accompanied by the > equivalent of the Linux "Developers Certificate > of Origin" signoff (by the developer)? > > That puts the onerous on the submitters to insure > that

RE: [OpenAFS] On contributor agreements

2008-09-04 Thread Buhrmaster, Gary
> As we move to make OpenAFS exist as a legal entity, this process needs > to be formalized. One possibility would be to have a contributor > agreement, similar to existing agreements from other projects, which > at minimum any committer would need to sign. However there may be > benefit in having

Re: [OpenAFS] On contributor agreements

2008-09-04 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 05:31:48PM -0400, Derrick Brashear wrote: > > As we move to make OpenAFS exist as a legal entity, this process needs > to be formalized. One possibility would be to have a contributor > agreement, similar to existing agreements from other projects, which > at minimum any c

Re: [OpenAFS] Fileserver doesn't recognise host-principals

2008-09-04 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On 2008 Sep 4, at 17:48, Russ Allbery wrote: Frank Burkhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Is it possible to disable it? Not without source code modifications. Also, the change would likely need to be made to both OpenAFS and to your Kerberos server; although with Heimdal it would be a krb5

Re: [OpenAFS] Fileserver doesn't recognise host-principals

2008-09-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Frank Burkhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 10:34:18AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> AFS uses K4 principal naming, so the PTS ID has to be rcmd.somehost. >> AFS will map host/somehost.your.domain to rcmd.somehost internally >> before checking ACLs. > Thank you - that was

[OpenAFS] On contributor agreements

2008-09-04 Thread Derrick Brashear
OpenAFS has always has implicit agreements for code and documentation contributions, namely, changes to existing items needed to be compatible with the existing license (typically IPL v1.0, but for certain components, BSD, APSL, or the Sun RPC license) As we move to make OpenAFS exist as a legal e

[OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-announce] OpenAFS gatekeeper plan draft available

2008-09-04 Thread Steven Jenkins
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Derrick Brashear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OpenAFS has started down a path to formally organizing. One piece of > the plan involves formalizing roles, and so provided here is a draft > plan for the role of the gatekeepers as well as expectations of > contributors

Re: [OpenAFS] when openafs becomes a windows IFS

2008-09-04 Thread Jeffrey Altman
I added the code to the SMB Server to identify mount points and symlinks as reparse points. The output using 4NT/TCMD from JP Software becomes Directory of \\afs\athena#user.jaltman\* 12/31/1969 23:59 . 12/31/1969 23:59 .. 12/31/1969 23:59krbdev [\\afs\athena

Re: [OpenAFS] when openafs becomes a windows IFS

2008-09-04 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Christof Hanke wrote: > OK, I just thought so otherwise, because it seems to make a difference for > those guys : > > http://www.superflexible.com/docs.htm# > Look for : > "The program does not follow NTFS Junction Points." It certainly makes a difference if you are attempting to clone a file sy

Re: [OpenAFS] when openafs becomes a windows IFS

2008-09-04 Thread Christof Hanke
On Thursday 04 September 2008 15:06:05 Jeffrey Altman wrote: > Christof Hanke wrote: > > On Tuesday 22 July 2008 23:57:56 Jeffrey Altman wrote: > >> Christopher D. Clausen wrote: > >>> Would using mount points instead of symlinks to directories help with > >>> this problem? > >> > >> Windows doesn'

Re: [OpenAFS] VLServer Reporting Wrong IP Behind NAT

2008-09-04 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Jason C. Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Derrick Brashear wrote: > >>> How can I get the vlserver to report the external IP address for external >>> requests? >>> >> It's supposed to report both and does for me. We don't know where the >> request came from, and i

Re: [OpenAFS] when openafs becomes a windows IFS

2008-09-04 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Christof Hanke wrote: > On Tuesday 22 July 2008 23:57:56 Jeffrey Altman wrote: >> Christopher D. Clausen wrote: >>> Would using mount points instead of symlinks to directories help with >>> this problem? >> Windows doesn't know about mount points. A mount point is a Directory >> to Windows. Same

Re: [OpenAFS] Fileserver doesn't recognise host-principals

2008-09-04 Thread Frank Burkhardt
Hi, On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 09:49:06AM -0500, Douglas E. Engert wrote: [snip] > ls -l uses the host's mapping of UID to names. > > So was the file written with the anonymous UID? > ls -ln should show the UID. > What mappings are /etc/passwd, NIS or LDAP? I'm using the ptdb-nss-plugin which me

Re: [OpenAFS] Fileserver doesn't recognise host-principals

2008-09-04 Thread Frank Burkhardt
Hi, On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 10:34:18AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Frank Burkhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I've got a strange problem here. Some of my AFS-client-machines must > > put some stuff into AFS on a regular basis. Since all of them have > > a host/...-Keytab, I wanted to use

Re: [OpenAFS] when openafs becomes a windows IFS

2008-09-04 Thread Christof Hanke
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 23:57:56 Jeffrey Altman wrote: > Christopher D. Clausen wrote: > > Would using mount points instead of symlinks to directories help with > > this problem? > > Windows doesn't know about mount points. A mount point is a Directory > to Windows. Same behavior when removing a