[OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.7.26 windows and not changed AFS service principle - OK?

2013-07-25 Thread Lars Schimmer
Hi! Maybe I am not the best reader, but if I do use a win AD as a krb5 auth service and I did not change anything with my keyfiles and everything, should OpenAFS 1.7.26 on Windows work as usual? As I tried on my system it did not work fine. It did show a ticket/token, but it shows

[OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.5 .src.rpm on RHEL 5.x Fails with cpio: MD5 sum mismatch

2013-07-25 Thread Brunckhorst, Ralf
Hi, Similar issue with the src.rpm of the new version 1.6.5 like 1.6.2 Is it possible to fix this by providing a compatible src.rpm 1.6.5 for RHEL5? - Ralf

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.5 .src.rpm on RHEL 5.x Fails with cpio: MD5 sum mismatch

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Quinney
You can grab a signed SRPM for RHEL5 from the /afs/ inf.ed.ac.uk/group/afsbuild/1.6.5/rhel5 directory. That's the source which was used to build the publically available RHEL5 RPMs. Stephen Quinney On 25 July 2013 12:47, Brunckhorst, Ralf ralf.brunckho...@hp.com wrote: Hi, ** **

[OpenAFS] Heimdal KDC bug mentioned in rekeying document

2013-07-25 Thread stephen
Hi, In the cell rekeying instructions found at http://openafs.org/pages/security/how-to-rekey.txt, there is a note for sites using Heimdal KDCs. It mentions a bug present in certain versions of the Heimdal KDC software which completely disables DES on the AFS service principal when following

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.5 .src.rpm on RHEL 5.x Fails with cpio: MD5 sum mismatch

2013-07-25 Thread Brunckhorst, Ralf
Ok, I will grab it from there. Thanks, Ralf Am 25.07.2013 um 14:03 schrieb Stephen Quinney step...@jadevine.org.ukmailto:step...@jadevine.org.uk: You can grab a signed SRPM for RHEL5 from the /afs/inf.ed.ac.uk/group/afsbuild/1.6.5/rhel5http://inf.ed.ac.uk/group/afsbuild/1.6.5/rhel5

[OpenAFS] Re: Heimdal KDC bug mentioned in rekeying document

2013-07-25 Thread Andrew Deason
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:11:38 -0400 (EDT) step...@physics.unc.edu wrote: In the cell rekeying instructions found at http://openafs.org/pages/security/how-to-rekey.txt, there is a note for sites using Heimdal KDCs. It mentions a bug present in certain versions of the Heimdal KDC software which

[OpenAFS] Re: OpenAFS 1.7.26 windows and not changed AFS service principle - OK?

2013-07-25 Thread Andrew Deason
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:57:33 +0200 Lars Schimmer l.schim...@cgv.tugraz.at wrote: Maybe I am not the best reader, but if I do use a win AD as a krb5 auth service and I did not change anything with my keyfiles and everything, should OpenAFS 1.7.26 on Windows work as usual? I didn't have

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: OpenAFS 1.7.26 windows and not changed AFS service principle - OK?

2013-07-25 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, Andrew Deason wrote: On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:57:33 +0200 Lars Schimmer l.schim...@cgv.tugraz.at wrote: Maybe I am not the best reader, but if I do use a win AD as a krb5 auth service and I did not change anything with my keyfiles and everything, should OpenAFS 1.7.26 on

[OpenAFS] Re: OpenAFS 1.7.26 windows and not changed AFS service principle - OK?

2013-07-25 Thread Andrew Deason
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Benjamin Kaduk ka...@mit.edu wrote: The short version is: a misconfigured KDC can cause problems for new clients against old servers. If that's true, we need to say specifically what that misconfiguration is, so people can check for them and avoid it.

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: OpenAFS 1.7.26 windows and not changed AFS service principle - OK?

2013-07-25 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, Andrew Deason wrote: On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Benjamin Kaduk ka...@mit.edu wrote: The short version is: a misconfigured KDC can cause problems for new clients against old servers. If that's true, we need to say specifically what that misconfiguration is,

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.7.26 windows and not changed AFS service principle - OK?

2013-07-25 Thread Jeffrey Altman
On 7/25/2013 4:57 AM, Lars Schimmer wrote: Hi! Maybe I am not the best reader, but if I do use a win AD as a krb5 auth service and I did not change anything with my keyfiles and everything, should OpenAFS 1.7.26 on Windows work as usual? As I tried on my system it did not work fine. It

[OpenAFS] Re: OpenAFS 1.7.26 windows and not changed AFS service principle - OK?

2013-07-25 Thread Andrew Deason
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Benjamin Kaduk ka...@mit.edu wrote: and in the absence of other information, the KDC should not assume that a service supports an enctype for which it has no long-term key. After thinking about this, it seems like we could make this more robust, if the

Re: [OpenAFS] Heimdal KDC bug mentioned in rekeying document

2013-07-25 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 09:11 -0400, step...@physics.unc.edu wrote: Hi, In the cell rekeying instructions found at http://openafs.org/pages/security/how-to-rekey.txt, there is a note for sites using Heimdal KDCs. It mentions a bug present in certain versions of the Heimdal KDC software

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Heimdal KDC bug mentioned in rekeying document

2013-07-25 Thread Sergio Gelato
* Andrew Deason [2013-07-25 10:03:18 -0500]: On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:11:38 -0400 (EDT) step...@physics.unc.edu wrote: In the cell rekeying instructions found at http://openafs.org/pages/security/how-to-rekey.txt, there is a note for sites using Heimdal KDCs. It mentions a bug present in

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: OpenAFS 1.7.26 windows and not changed AFS service principle - OK?

2013-07-25 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 11:38 -0500, Andrew Deason wrote: On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Benjamin Kaduk ka...@mit.edu wrote: and in the absence of other information, the KDC should not assume that a service supports an enctype for which it has no long-term key. After thinking

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Heimdal KDC bug mentioned in rekeying document

2013-07-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Sergio Gelato sergio.gel...@astro.su.se writes: I've been poking a bit into this. First of all, let's make sure I don't misunderstand your expectation here: do you want the KDC to be willing to issue a ticket with a des-cbc-crc session key (as requested by old aklog) even though the afs

[OpenAFS] Re: OpenAFS 1.7.26 windows and not changed AFS service principle - OK?

2013-07-25 Thread Andrew Deason
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:23:54 -0400 Jeffrey Hutzelman jh...@cmu.edu wrote: After thinking about this, it seems like we could make this more robust, if the KDC doesn't do this. The behavior we're desiring is that a KDC just _prefers_ using session key enctypes where it has an associated

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: OpenAFS 1.7.26 windows and not changed AFS service principle - OK?

2013-07-25 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
I think jhutz has covered most of the points already, but: On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, Andrew Deason wrote: On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Benjamin Kaduk ka...@mit.edu wrote: and in the absence of other information, the KDC should not assume that a service supports an enctype for which it

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Heimdal KDC bug mentioned in rekeying document

2013-07-25 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, Sergio Gelato wrote: I've been poking a bit into this. First of all, let's make sure I don't misunderstand your expectation here: do you want the KDC to be willing to issue a ticket with a des-cbc-crc session key (as requested by old aklog) even though the afs service

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: OpenAFS 1.7.26 windows and not changed AFS service principle - OK?

2013-07-25 Thread Douglas E. Engert
On 7/25/2013 2:16 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: I think jhutz has covered most of the points already, but: On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, Andrew Deason wrote: On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Benjamin Kaduk ka...@mit.edu wrote: and in the absence of other information, the KDC should not assume

[OpenAFS] Re: Heimdal KDC bug mentioned in rekeying document

2013-07-25 Thread Andrew Deason
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Benjamin Kaduk ka...@mit.edu wrote: On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, Sergio Gelato wrote: I've been poking a bit into this. First of all, let's make sure I don't misunderstand your expectation here: do you want the KDC to be willing to issue a ticket with a

[OpenAFS] Re: OpenAFS 1.7.26 windows and not changed AFS service principle - OK?

2013-07-25 Thread Andrew Deason
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Benjamin Kaduk ka...@mit.edu wrote: I know in draft-kaduk-afs3-rxkad-kdf-03 you/we explicitly say that KDCs need to not issue non-DES session keys when we only have a DES long-term key, but do they all actually do that? Is the reasoning there that

[OpenAFS] Re: Heimdal KDC bug mentioned in rekeying document

2013-07-25 Thread Andrew Deason
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 19:12:11 +0200 Sergio Gelato sergio.gel...@astro.su.se wrote: I've been poking a bit into this. First of all, let's make sure I don't misunderstand your expectation here: do you want the KDC to be willing to issue a ticket with a des-cbc-crc session key (as requested by

[OpenAFS] More questions about the re-keying document

2013-07-25 Thread stephen
First, I don't think I said this before, but to whomever wrote the rekeying document and the instructions for 1.4 and 1.6, thanks! It's great that these were available immediately, at the same time as the security vulnerability. I also think that eliminating DES is worth the pain of re-keying

Re: [OpenAFS] More questions about the re-keying document

2013-07-25 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, step...@physics.unc.edu wrote: In going over the re-keying document, a few more questions popped into my mind that weren't clear from my reading of the document. In the Basic procedure for MIT, it mentions ensuring that DES should not be one of the encryption types in

Re: [OpenAFS] More questions about the re-keying document

2013-07-25 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: There's another MIT-specific reason to not include a DES key in the rxkad.keytab, namely that the MIT KDC does not set requires_preauth on new principals by default. This means that if there's a DES key in the KDB, an unauthenticated attacker can

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.6.5 .src.rpm on RHEL 5.x Fails with cpio: MD5 sum mismatch

2013-07-25 Thread Jason Edgecombe
On 07/25/2013 07:47 AM, Brunckhorst, Ralf wrote: Hi, Similar issue with the src.rpm of the new version 1.6.5 like 1.6.2 Is it possible to fix this by providing a compatible src.rpm 1.6.5 for RHEL5? - Ralf Run rpm -i --nomd5 openafs-1.6.5.src.rpm to install it. RHEL5 doesn't